96 850R wagon slow build thread

rado · 2018-04-02T09:11:35+00:00

Oh the original color is dark gray pearl with 172 k on the clock automatic

242GT

Reason I asked is back in about 2003/4 I machined up 2 sets of adaptor brackets that looked exactly like that for Gerry MacCarthy who owned Aclass Parts and Service in Marigold Street in Milperra , NSW.

I was working at Hawker De Haviland at the time cnc milling and racing my 144.

He was racing a 242GT Turbo in the MX5 supersprint series at Wakefield Park .

Brought back memories when I saw the brackets.

rado

242GT
Reason I asked is back in about 2003/4 I machined up 2 sets of adaptor brackets that looked exactly like that for Gerry MacCarthy who owned Aclass Parts and Service in Marigold Street in Milperra , NSW.
I was working at Hawker De Haviland at the time cnc milling and racing my 144.
He was racing a 242GT Turbo in the MX5 supersprint series at Wakefield Park .
Brought back memories when I saw the brackets.

Nice bit of kit hey Stewart. The one I'm running atm are gold anodised.

rado

TL_V70
Well if you do want to sell your Alpha brakes in the future stevo hit us up and we can go from there.
I can't comment personally on getting work done myself but I remember my dad using Eric from Myaree Trimmers to do work on his 67 Mustang Fast back and cars for his business. Eric always had hot rods and the likes of drag cars in his workshop doing work on them from all the times I when there.
I am not sure if he still owns the business but he might be worth a try.
His passion was fords but he did trim on everything.

Marree, just upthe road , worth a look , cheers. I personally thought what he was quoting was a bit pricey at 800 bux but I don't know .

I was actually thinking of texting you seeing if your interested in some brakes . If I can find brackets for these new ones .....

AshDVS

rado
Seems I'm developing a brake fetish . I'm running on the front Alfa Romeo Brembos with 320mm rotors/discs as at the time I couldn't find 336mm brackets. Then they popped up so grabbed them
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Always wanting V70R rear brembos I've recently acquired some but as a bonus I got the fronts as well
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So now the dilemma , find brackets for the front V70R brenbos and pass on the Afpha set up or pass on the V70R fronts ?

I wouldnt use the the P2 S690R Brembos on the front. There is no decent way of mounting them, due to the ear/lug locations on the calipers, to fit them up without modifying the upright or having a fairly complicated adaptor.

It really makes more sense to use a radial mount caliper like your Alfa one or the Renault Megane RS ones. If you're so inclined, you can always have them refurbed to visually match the 'R' branded Brembo ones in the rear.

VolvoMike

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It's also more than just making an adapter and fitting the caliper. These were designed in the UK and there is only 1 place the calipers can go so everything is a compromise. I have no issues with the modified stub knuckle but the limited steering wasn't acceptable so I then designed and made my own lower co trol arms. There is another adapter that someone has made from Stainless and uses smaller bolts that bolt the wheel bearing to the stub knuckle.... I would NOT entertain using them.

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AshDVS

VolvoMike
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It's also more than just making an adapter and fitting the caliper. These were designed in the UK and there is only 1 place the calipers can go so everything is a compromise. I have no issues with the modified stub knuckle but the limited steering wasn't acceptable so I then designed and made my own lower co trol arms. There is another adapter that someone has made from Stainless and uses smaller bolts that bolt the wheel bearing to the stub knuckle.... I would NOT entertain using them.
https://cdn.ozvolvo.org/uploads/1N37EYX4W2PE/293222998-6042745192409413-4691775154134153247-n.jpg
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It's so bizarre that packaging it all to consider the arm design just wasn't done, that said, I love your tubular arms and may get you to make me a pair so I dont have to reinvent the wheel.

I recently did a current Mustang to LS-LV Focus/P1 Volvo caliper adaptor design and did a very small run of adaptors for a customer as it's what he wanted to do. It uses a huge rotor and the caliper is so big that even getting a sensible sized wheel and tyre on it was tough.

My point being that sometimes we get fixated on using a certain caliper, perhaps because it is 'on brand' with the vehicle it's going on to that we dont consider the constraints well enough before we pull the trigger. For the P80, I think that a radial mount caliper (there's a few to choose from that could work) makes a lot of sense.

TL_V70

Hi Steve they might not be in business any more as I had a look this morning and it was hard to find info on them although I did find this. They maybe on FB but I can't check that.

rado

Interesting information guys cheers. So I'll keep the Alfa set up but just go up a notch to the 336mm. Saying that I'm sure @shadycourgette is running v70r fronts on the T5R . Any chance you can confirm ?

Ex850R

Ceika do excellent stuffs , boss has em on front of his XR6 Turbo tray back ute, dumped the Brembo std brakes as too expensive to maintain.

rado

Never been overly happy with the horn push especially after the re-trim

I knew it was not og to the wheel . I found a company that was 'stated ' in the UK . So finally bought one and arrived this week

Apparently it's a direct replica of BBS . Actually turns out it actually came from Thailand and posting was from Thailand , nothing says UK. I'll give it a go see if it looks the part .

rado

Bit of an update then , had Friday off , my last 4 day week as went to the doctor to get myself a signed back on for 5 days a week . The ankle isn't 100% and probably will never be so I'll just deal with it .

With the Friday off I took the R out the shed for a good blast as I've not touched it and back in the shed now . I've gotta get my arse in gear , maybe it's the weather .... too cold

So I cleaned and painted the rear calipers yesterday and today to match the fronts

And the upper engine mount in body colour

I popped into the car stereo shop last week and had a pop at them about the Vocal speakers. 4 months waiting so far and they've had my electric windows switch as well as they said they could change the led bulbs for blue "NO PROBLEM " Low and behold I get a phone call this week , speakers are coming from over east now , approximately 2 weeks now . Switches wise he's scratching his head .

Anyone here any good at soldering LEDs in Switches ? Want a cashie ?

Anyway still have a pile to do here , where to start is the question . ?

rado

Curiosity got the better of me today as I've been meaning to try the 336mm front brackets on for a while. Quite a bit of difference between the 320mm and 336mm

As you can see the difference on mounting one in front , the other behind. But both fit perfectly so that's all good ?

rado

Started striping the interior Saturday , didn't get too far as was side tracked getting the latest 6 disc auto changer mounted to the oem bracket

Out with the Clarion in with the Alpine.

Well the seats are out , the rears fought me all the way ! Either they're soo easy or a bugger . These were a right bugger to get out . Anyway fronts easy as they've been out before as you know . That was about it for the weekend . Hopefully this weekend carpet out and new sound deadening and many many wires for the new sounds ......

I'm working my way from back to front , plan is get the interior sorted, then engine ? with a bit of brake upgrades in-between

Ex850R

I have memories of getting the 28V recipro saw onto the bodywork and inner guard at the back seat hinge area as the damn thing wouldn't release...the silly spring clip !

rado

Ex850R
I have memories of getting the 28V recipro saw onto the bodywork and inner guard at the back seat hinge area as the damn thing wouldn't release...the silly spring clip !

That gold 855 I had for spares the rear seats nigh on fell out , this one , I had a mate around and the two of us yanking for ages but finally got em out ?

rado

Oh ..... actually had an update on the Vocal speakers ? yep another delay . No rush I suppose ?

rado

Just got all the carpets out and all the original floors look very decent

The plan was to put down new sound deadening but there’s nothing wrong with what's in here . So I'm sat in here atm working out where to run all the new wires to the boot then back through to the doors unless I could hide the amp near the dash , Na scrub that last idea ?

242GT

You do realise that your going to have bits and pieces left over when you put it all back in dont you ??

rado

242GT
You do realise that your going to have bits and pieces left over when you put it all back in dont you ??

You'll never guess what I've done ?

Every screw or bolt I've taken out I've put back in place , forward thinking for a change ?

TL_V70

When I did my stereo in my old wagon I put my 2x amps under the 2 front seats I ran all the cables under the carpet through the holes where the rear under seat vents run. Then ran cables up to the rear for the sub under the trim and carpet.

I left factory wiring through the doors and the door connector and wired the amp speaker out puts behind the radio. As it was easiest and I didn't want to mess with the door pins.

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