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Sorry i have been flat out with work the last few days so havent had a chance to get back on I havent had any luck myself, ill have to put my search on hold until after christmas ill get that out of the way then i shall organise a group buy if people can hold out until then otherwise you's can go ahead and ill keep searching down the track ive got an american V8 engine shop near my work so i might drop in during the week and see what they might have and keep you all posted.
Why not just get them from overseas? No real need for a group buy?
Group buys help on postage costs. Especially with the crappy Aussie $.
blondejay;64031 wroteIf you wanted to start a group buy, your welcome to put me down for a set
You're putting a 16V together? I'd be ordering the Sealed Power VS1632 springs, not those Crow Cams beehive ones, which (at a guess) will also need nonstandard retainers on a B234 head. <p>
Vee_Que;64039 wroteWhy not just get them from overseas? No real need for a group buy?
Rock Auto seems to be the store that has the best price for the VS1632. eBay has them slightly cheaper. But with Rock Auto, at least you know you're getting a Sealed Power spec spring and not a weaker lookalike. They may even do a better price for a larger quantity.
Yeah those crows, were a bit of a BAHAHAGA. Look at the price.

Yeah I have a complete 16v i got not long ago, will be pulling my car off the road soon to do that and a few other bits.

Then I can focus on my turbo bike :D
6 days later
Just in from TB:
forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?p=5297748#post5297748
Originally Posted by culberro
Bumping this to add some relevant info. I had the opportunity to measure the used stock valve springs and some Sealed Power VS1632 springs over the weekend.

Of note, the VS1632 springs are not a "beehive" spring, they are as straight as can be. They do have a progressive winding to them, and that will reduce the reciprocating mass of the spring IF the tightly would part is mounted near the head.
The Ford 4.6/VS1632 springs do offer more seat pressure, but that's about it. I'm not sure why these are viewed as "THE upgraded spangs mang!"... as the stockers actually are a stiffer spring.

Used 16v springs:
Spring Rate (installed to block): 250lbs/in
Open Height: 43.6mm/1.715in
Installed Height: 37mm/1.456in & 22.7Kgs/50lbs
Coil Bind: 24.4mm/0.960in & 79.5Kgs/175lbs

Sealed Power VS-1632 "Ford 4.6" springs
Spring Rate (installed to block): 220lbs/in
Open Height: 52.6mm/2.070in
Installed Height: 37mm/1.456in & 31.8Kgs/70lbs
Coil Bind: 24.4mm/0.960in & 79.5Kgs/175lbs
The "good" springs are 12% less.... :( Let's see i there's an alternative.
a month later
Next Monday, I'm ordering a set of these:


Product Description

Ford 4.6, 4V , 330 lbs/in
0.500" Lift ovate wire beehive springs for Ford 4V cylinder heads
95lbs @ 1.420"
260lbs @ .920"
Upper ID .645"
Lower ID .755"
coil bind approximately .870"
set of 32.
$249 USD + shipping for a set of 32, or $7.78 USD each plus shipping.

briantooleyracing.com/500-lift-ford-4v-modular-springs.html

I'll need 32 for my heads, but if anybody's interested in a bulk order, let me know before next Monday via PM.

It may save you a bit on international shipping.

The forum saying that people have had good results with the springs because of the installed height pressure...
Vee_Que;66404 wroteThe forum saying that people have had good results with the springs because of the installed height pressure...
The numbers on these Toohey springs suggest they're stiffer than the VS1632 across the range and they bind 1.4mm lower, allowing a wee bit more lift.

Installed Height length & pressure via culberro:

Used B234 16v springs: = 37mm/1.456in & 22.7Kgs/50lbs, Coil Bind: 24.4mm/0.960in & 79.5Kgs/175lbs
Sealed Power VS-1632 = 37mm/1.456in & 31.8Kgs/70lbs, Coil Bind: 24.4mm/0.960in & 79.5Kgs/175lbs
and these -
SP008 - 32 springs = 37mm/1.456in & 37.2Kgs /82lbs.

The spring rate of the Toohey spring is 330lbs/in, and coil bind is 0.870in (22.098 mm).
    4 years later
    Major Ledfoot Vee_Que (@Vee_Que) wrote: » The forum saying that people have had good results with the springs because of the installed height pressure... The numbers on these Toohey springs suggest they're stiffer than the VS1632 across the range and they bind 1.4mm lower, allowing a wee bit more lift. Installed Height length & pressure via culberro: Used B234 16v springs: = 37mm/1.456in & 22.7Kgs/50lbs, Coil Bind: 24.4mm/0.960in & 79.5Kgs/175lbs Sealed Power VS-1632 = 37mm/1.456in & 31.8Kgs/70lbs, Coil Bind: 24.4mm/0.960in & 79.5Kgs/175lbs and these - SP008 - 32 springs = 37mm/1.456in & 37.2Kgs /82lbs. The spring rate of the Toohey spring is 330lbs/in, and coil bind is 0.870in (22.098 mm).

    Nothing like bringing a 4 year old thread back from the dead.

    Did you end up getting the Toohey springs? Fitment?

    I'm pondering my options at the moment. Valve train is one of the last things to figure out with my engine build.

      Im running the ford valvesprings with no issues, got them from rockauto iirc

      @VolvoHordz I ended up buying two sets of the VS1632 springs for a decent price - somewhat less that Yoshifab was asking at the time. Well that, and the goals for the car changed - it was going to get some crazy Cat cams, but it's likely now to get Cat cams which are someone more sane and which don't require solid lifters, etc.

      Which reminds me - it's about time I sent at least one of the heads away to be tanked, machined, get the new valves and guides fitted, and reassembled. Project Clyde has stalled a bit, with everything else that's been going on.

      I just ordered a set of the vs1632 from yoshifab. Only place that i could find that had them in stock and was already ordering a bunch of other things.

      Those Brian Tooley springs were tempting but the vs1632 springs should be adeqaute and definately an easy drop in replacement.

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