Ford 4.6 valve springs for 16v Conversion

Cj1992

Hey people im looking for someone who may have a spare or unwanted set of 4.6L valve springs for sale to complete my 16v head reco
Cheers Cam

Vee_Que

Thought the guy was getting some? Best bet is yoshifab!

Cj1992

Hes having trouble locating them apparently everything else is done just those springs, im thinking i might have to hit them up ill take a look this arvo after work and see. Is there any places in Aus that you might know of ?

Vee_Que

Eagle do lots of American stuff,
http://www.eagleautoparts.com.au/

Major Ledfoot

Not in Oz, but looking around for the best deals on Sealed Power VS1632 springs...

Summit Racing = $47.84 / set of 16 + shipping via DHL = $87.83 USD
Rock Auto = $32.64 / set of 16 + i'national shipping with tracking = $59.49. USD

penta242gt

Call superpro in dandenong melbourne I have bought heaps of stuff from them over the years for my muscle cars..... 03 97945177

Major Ledfoot

Just gave that Superpro a call - they don't keep them any more.

@Cj1992 have you had any luck finding some? If not, and you want to do a group buy, please let me know - I want to put an order in to Rock Auto before Xmas since I need 3 sets for my 3 heads.

deleted_user_160

If you wanted to start a group buy, your welcome to put me down for a set

deleted_user_160

Let's buy these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

0_o

Cj1992

Sorry i have been flat out with work the last few days so havent had a chance to get back on I havent had any luck myself, ill have to put my search on hold until after christmas ill get that out of the way then i shall organise a group buy if people can hold out until then otherwise you's can go ahead and ill keep searching down the track ive got an american V8 engine shop near my work so i might drop in during the week and see what they might have and keep you all posted.

Vee_Que

Why not just get them from overseas? No real need for a group buy?

deleted_user_160

Group buys help on postage costs. Especially with the crappy Aussie $.

Major Ledfoot

blondejay;64031 wroteIf you wanted to start a group buy, your welcome to put me down for a set

You're putting a 16V together? I'd be ordering the Sealed Power VS1632 springs, not those Crow Cams beehive ones, which (at a guess) will also need nonstandard retainers on a B234 head. <p>

Vee_Que;64039 wroteWhy not just get them from overseas? No real need for a group buy?

Rock Auto seems to be the store that has the best price for the VS1632. eBay has them slightly cheaper. But with Rock Auto, at least you know you're getting a Sealed Power spec spring and not a weaker lookalike. They may even do a better price for a larger quantity.

deleted_user_160

Yeah those crows, were a bit of a BAHAHAGA. Look at the price.

Yeah I have a complete 16v i got not long ago, will be pulling my car off the road soon to do that and a few other bits.

Then I can focus on my turbo bike :D

tbro

http://performancesprings.com.au/

Talk to Allen

Major Ledfoot

Just in from TB:
forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?p=5297748#post5297748
Originally Posted by culberro

Bumping this to add some relevant info. I had the opportunity to measure the used stock valve springs and some Sealed Power VS1632 springs over the weekend.

Of note, the VS1632 springs are not a "beehive" spring, they are as straight as can be. They do have a progressive winding to them, and that will reduce the reciprocating mass of the spring IF the tightly would part is mounted near the head.
The Ford 4.6/VS1632 springs do offer more seat pressure, but that's about it. I'm not sure why these are viewed as "THE upgraded spangs mang!"... as the stockers actually are a stiffer spring.

Used 16v springs:
Spring Rate (installed to block): 250lbs/in
Open Height: 43.6mm/1.715in
Installed Height: 37mm/1.456in & 22.7Kgs/50lbs
Coil Bind: 24.4mm/0.960in & 79.5Kgs/175lbs

Sealed Power VS-1632 "Ford 4.6" springs
Spring Rate (installed to block): 220lbs/in
Open Height: 52.6mm/2.070in
Installed Height: 37mm/1.456in & 31.8Kgs/70lbs
Coil Bind: 24.4mm/0.960in & 79.5Kgs/175lbs

The "good" springs are 12% less.... :( Let's see i there's an alternative.

Major Ledfoot

Next Monday, I'm ordering a set of these:

Product Description

Ford 4.6, 4V , 330 lbs/in
0.500" Lift ovate wire beehive springs for Ford 4V cylinder heads
95lbs @ 1.420"
260lbs @ .920"
Upper ID .645"
Lower ID .755"
coil bind approximately .870"
set of 32.

$249 USD + shipping for a set of 32, or $7.78 USD each plus shipping.

briantooleyracing.com/500-lift-ford-4v-modular-springs.html

I'll need 32 for my heads, but if anybody's interested in a bulk order, let me know before next Monday via PM.

It may save you a bit on international shipping.

Vee_Que

The forum saying that people have had good results with the springs because of the installed height pressure...

Major Ledfoot

Vee_Que;66404 wroteThe forum saying that people have had good results with the springs because of the installed height pressure...

The numbers on these Toohey springs suggest they're stiffer than the VS1632 across the range and they bind 1.4mm lower, allowing a wee bit more lift.

Installed Height length & pressure via culberro:

Used B234 16v springs: = 37mm/1.456in & 22.7Kgs/50lbs, Coil Bind: 24.4mm/0.960in & 79.5Kgs/175lbs
Sealed Power VS-1632 = 37mm/1.456in & 31.8Kgs/70lbs, Coil Bind: 24.4mm/0.960in & 79.5Kgs/175lbs
and these -
SP008 - 32 springs = 37mm/1.456in & 37.2Kgs /82lbs.

The spring rate of the Toohey spring is 330lbs/in, and coil bind is 0.870in (22.098 mm).

VolvoHordz

Major Ledfoot Vee_Que (@Vee_Que) wrote: » The forum saying that people have had good results with the springs because of the installed height pressure... The numbers on these Toohey springs suggest they're stiffer than the VS1632 across the range and they bind 1.4mm lower, allowing a wee bit more lift. Installed Height length & pressure via culberro: Used B234 16v springs: = 37mm/1.456in & 22.7Kgs/50lbs, Coil Bind: 24.4mm/0.960in & 79.5Kgs/175lbs Sealed Power VS-1632 = 37mm/1.456in & 31.8Kgs/70lbs, Coil Bind: 24.4mm/0.960in & 79.5Kgs/175lbs and these - SP008 - 32 springs = 37mm/1.456in & 37.2Kgs /82lbs. The spring rate of the Toohey spring is 330lbs/in, and coil bind is 0.870in (22.098 mm).

Nothing like bringing a 4 year old thread back from the dead.

Did you end up getting the Toohey springs? Fitment?

I'm pondering my options at the moment. Valve train is one of the last things to figure out with my engine build.