Tiga
Hey, I've just been having a bit of trouble finding parts for my 240 project (85 b230e k-jet) this is just a small list of things I am chasing to get things going.
-intake manifold
- injectors
- fuel rail
- turbo
- turbo exhaust manifold
- intercooler
- m46 trans
- flywheel
- clutch master
- clutch slave
- manual pedal box
I don't have room for a parts car. Can pick up Sydney and Central Coast areas as I am located on the Hawkesbury, if parts can be delivered that's good too.
Thanks
Tiga
Also a front passenger door, mine has a small hole in it :)
Slowbrick
Buy this. I know you say you dont have room for a parts car but this will be your best bet at getting everything. I see you have Kjet so you will also *need* to switch to EFI to make everything work and be reliable.
https://ozvolvo.org/discussion/8557/qld-88-240-turbo-m47-3k-negotiable-trades-also-considered#latest
ramrod
Tiga;8847 wroteHey, I've just been having a bit of trouble finding parts for my 240 project (85 b230e k-jet) this is just a small list of things I am chasing to get things going.
-intake manifold
- injectors
- fuel rail
- turbo
- turbo exhaust manifold
- intercooler
- m46 trans
- flywheel
- clutch master
- clutch slave
- manual pedal box
I don't have room for a parts car. Can pick up Sydney and Central Coast areas as I am located on the Hawkesbury, if parts can be delivered that's good too.
Thanks
What fuel system are you planning on installing? Quite a big job.
Tiga
Thanks @Slowbrick but qld is a bit far for me :/
Tiga
@ramrod looking at running 740t green tops or ford brown tops running through a haltech ecu. Aftermarket fuel pump and regulator ect.
Slowbrick
I know this is offtopic, but are you planning on putting the turbo on the current motor? A B230E runs 10.1:1 compression which is quite high and also has 9mm rods with a centre thrust bearing. The B230E unfortunately does not make a very good candidate for a turbo engine build especially if you are planning on going to the expense of a Haltech ECU. The hardware simply wont hold up to any sort of abuse and that motor will throw a rod if it doesnt bend one first.
The +T motors are great, I had a B230FX +T on the road for about 4 years and it was great, but you need to pick the engine carefully. If you want to take advantage of the higher compression then get yourself a later block with the 13mm rods and the rear thrust bearing. Your compression ratio will depend on the head you get (530 = 9.8:1, 531 = 9.3:1). Otherwise get yourself a later block with 13mm rods, rear thrust bearing and throw in some stock turbo pistons. The only real advantage of the turbo pistons over the NA ones is the strength of the ring landing. That being said I ran NA pistons for 4 year and it was fine at 12psi.
I ran mine with stock computers but with a Haltech you can no doubt tune it to run high boost on the higher than standard compression that the stock computers are comfortable with.
Not trying to derail your thread and I hope you get it all running but just thought id give you a little advice because Ive done the +T thing before and made a fair few mistakes and hopefully can teach others about them so they have a more enjoyable experience :)
Vee_Que
If you're going to use a haltech, for the money. Make sure you get a 90+ manifold, and something other than a stock turbo. A swap to a na 940 B230fb motor from a 93 on car would be good. The 940 for sale for $600 currently would be a good bet actually.
Even on e85 the b230e compression will push the internals too hard if you expect decent power.
Vee_Que
Will you be running a yoshifab cas sensor for ignition sensing? It's most ideal on these motors.
egads (she/her)
Getting the $600 91 940se from here will server you well parts wise and is pretty nearby
https://ozvolvo.org/discussion/8842/nsw-silver-87-745-t-silver-91-944-se-turbo-600-ea-1000-the-pair-katoomba#latest
No room for a parts car means something like buy and strip at a mates or at a wreckers
Slowbrick
FB would be a nice motor and would make nice power. An FB with something like a GT2860 would be a very competent thing.
Tiga
Bwahhh, thanks everyone for the advice!!
I guess I'll start looking for a 93+ b230f engine to swap!!
Is swapping the crank and rods from a penta motor out of the question? Does the 86mm crank only fit later b230 engines?
For ignition Im looking at ls1 coil packs, and hall effect cas and cps
ramrod
cacdaddy, don't get too excited too quickly. Step by step. Start with the basics. get the car, get the engine running sweet, turbo it, learn about it. Then mod it. And have fun
Tiga
Yeah true, I should probably focus on one thing at a time hahah
Ghettobird
Dont waste your time with crappy old 740 T green injectors, if your going with a Haltech or other EMS - You may as well get some 850/x70 white injectors (350cc) or bigger and adjust for it in the ECU.
I can help with injectors, rail, intake & manifold shipped up if you are struggling to find bits up north
Vee_Que
Tiga;137738 wroteBwahhh, thanks everyone for the advice!!
I guess I'll start looking for a 93+ b230f engine to swap!!
Is swapping the crank and rods from a penta motor out of the question? Does the 86mm crank only fit later b230 engines?
For ignition Im looking at ls1 coil packs, and hall effect cas and cps
You can run a 2.5 crank yes, but not a huge gain either.
Tiga
@Ghettobird injectors, rail and manifold sounds good, I'll pm you!!
Slowbrick
As a first step it might be worthwhile getting your Haltech installed as you will need that regardless and your swap will depend on it. You can then become familiar with how it works and how to tune it.
When I did my first +T I installed the EZK to the car and ran it for about 3 weeks to make sure it worked. EZK is no where as complicated as Haltech though. Going from Kjet to EFI is nothing to sneeze at and will take up a lot of your time and will make or break your swap.
Get your current motor running sweet on it then go go go.
Tiga
That does sound like a good idea but won't I need all the efi stuff to run the haltech
Vee_Que
Yes. And a cas sensor from yoshifab.com and other bits to match. What version haltech are you going with? I've spoken with haltech and they recommend the 1000 because you can map boost.
