Jackiejr
Hi,
I am about to buy an '07 XC90 diesel, 146,000kms and wondered if anyone could please give me a heads up about possible issues relating to diesel usage. I've only ever before had petrol Volvos. The only thing I'e so far heard is that one must give them a good drive at least once a week. I live in Central Vic so ANY drives tend to be longer ones.
Many thanks in anticipation of any good points to know.
VolvoMike
Transmission will need to be flushed. Turbo to intercooler pipe breaks the mounting lugs and allows the hose to blow off the turbo. Swirl actuator rods and butterflies carbon up and fail. Intake pipes and EGR fill with deposits so need to be cleaned.
Regards,
Michael
Jackiejr
Many thanks Michael.
Yes, I've heard that XC90s tend to need engine mounts replaced (is that what you mean about lugs or is that something different?) and also the angle sensors in the steering column (not that I have ANY idea what this means lol) repaired/replaced??
What I am most concerned about is what I need to do differently to maintain a diesel Volvo. The items/issues you mention above whilst no doubt are most pertinent, they are really the domain of my trusted mechanic as I've an honorary PhD in motor ignorance.
Chris
Timing belt, if not done, is at least due but many would argue overdue.
lasercowboy
@Philia_Bear will have some good tips
Jackiejr
Many thanks Chris,
Yes, I checked and it was replaced 2.5 months ago. ONE less thing to do. :)
Might you please know what badges and points in here are for? I've looked but can find no explanation and nor any benefits. Ta.
VolvoMike
Chris;118113 wroteTiming belt, if not done, is at least due but many would argue overdue.
Why is the belt due or overdue? Glad it has been done but the belt is due at 180km or 12 years. The S40/V50 belt is 10 years or 150km but the belt is also only 23mm wide compared to 28mm on the Diesel.
The lugs are the mounting points of the plastic intercooler pipe under the engine. Engine mounts do sag over time and you're correct in that the steering angle sensor can fail too bringing on the DSTC warning.
Regards,
Michael
Jackiejr
Ah, thank you again Michael. In this site, people speak a different language lol. Couple your more esoterically worded communication plus my ignorance and lugs and mounts become interchangeable....... and cars on masse, breathe a sigh of relief that I'm not a mechanic.
Jackiejr
lasercowboy;118114 wrote@Philia_Bear will have some good tips
Many thanks Rico. I shall remember that. Much appreciated.
Jackiejr
VolvoMike;118116 wroteChris;118113 wrote
"The lugs are the mounting points of the plastic intercooler pipe under the engine. Engine mounts do sag over time and you're correct in that the steering angle sensor can fail too bringing on the DSTC warning."
What can I say, I ALWAYS get stressed when the DSTC warning light comes on. Due to ignorance, I don't realise it means Dynamic Stability & Traction Control but instead think it's telling me "DO stop talking crap!"
Chris
Yes the intervals for the belt are as you say but failures are not unknown so better to do it. Otherwise monitor carefully as it gets older. Interference engine, so failure is a very bad thing.
I have had Berry monitoring my V50 D5 since it was 8 years old. Not done the drive belt yet but just did the aux belt, which was cracking
diecast
My 2010 XC90 purchased at 146,000km in 2015 has just under 200,000k on it now. Got the timing belt changed at 150,000k. I have recently had the intercooler rubber gaskets changed as there was a whistling sound under boost, and the Clockspring on the steering column must be on its way out as the DSTC warning intermittently appears (every blue moon).
Apart from being heavy on tyres - 255/50x19 Continentals lasted just over 30,000k's - I think its a great car. For such a heavy car i'm surprised the front pads have lasted 50,000k's but i do about 10% city driving. Looks like the front pads will last 60,000k's, but the dealership told me that next service it will need pads AND front rotors, as the pads and the rotors wear at the same rate - go figure.
Philia_Bear
Use non volvo pads and rotors and they will last way longer
Dba t2 and euro+ pads win for price vs performance for daily driver
Jackiejr
My 2010 XC90 purchased at 146,000km in 2015 has just under 200,000k on it now. Got the timing belt changed at 150,000k. I have recently had the intercooler rubber gaskets changed as there was a whistling sound under boost, and the Clockspring on the steering column must be on its way out as the DSTC warning intermittently appears (every blue moon).
Apart from being heavy on tyres - 255/50x19 Continentals lasted just over 30,000k's - I think its a great car. For such a heavy car i'm surprised the front pads have lasted 50,000k's but i do about 10% city driving. Looks like the front pads will last 60,000k's, but the dealership told me that next service it will need pads AND front rotors, as the pads and the rotors wear at the same rate - go figure.[/quote]
Dear Mr Diecast,
Many thanks indeed for your most informational message. Thank you too for so kindly writing to me as if I'm not the complete idiot I actually am. You also wrote as if I have the foggiest about this language you speak: Carlian. Having said that, I'm doing my utmost to become more familiar with the terminology and am copying and pasting everyone's comments into an email such that I can refer to it in the future, as I better get to know the car.
When I took an XC90 for a test drive, I was struck by the enormity of the wheels and hence the tyres. If it's not a personal question, how much does one pay for such beasts?
Not sure if you are in Melbourne but if so, I cannot recommend more highly, my mechanic: Voldat Automotive in Moorabbin. John Johnson is as honest as the day is long and they almost ONLY do Volvos. They are also a fraction of the price of dealerships.
I called the dealership that had worked on the car I'm buying to ask what it soon needed done.
I was told:
Leak in rocket cover gasket: $1950
Control Arm Bushes $1000
Vacuum pump $2100
I called my lovely mechanic at Voldat and John laughed, saying he could do it for respectively:
$800
He did not think the bushes yet needed replacing/repairing
and instead of getting a new vacuum pump, he recommended using a kit to the tune of $350.
That's quite a difference!
Many thanks again and G-d bless.
Jackiejr
Chris;118124 wroteYes the intervals for the belt are as you say but failures are not unknown so better to do it. Otherwise monitor carefully as it gets older. Interference engine, so failure is a very bad thing.
I have had Berry monitoring my V50 D5 since it was 8 years old. Not done the drive belt yet but just did the aux belt, which was cracking
Thank you again. I rechecked and it turns out the timing belt has NOT yet been replaced. I'd got this car confused with another but have spoken to so many people about so many cars that despite taking notes as best I can (not speaking Carlian) I'm struggling to keep everything in focus.
I shall most certainly get a new belt soon.
Jackiejr
Philia_Bear;118354 wroteUse non volvo pads and rotors and they will last way longer
Dba t2 and euro+ pads win for price vs performance for daily driver
Oooh that sounds like really useful information Mr Ursa Appreciator, which I hope to use in the future. My only issue is that if I ask this of my mechanic, would that be considered rude or persumptuous; as if I know better than he?
When you say "rotors" are they the same as "disks"
Major Ledfoot
One other thing to watch for is damage / stress fractures on the stay rods.
(pic by Robert Davies on Facebook)
Transporter drivers apparently used this stay rod to chain the vehicles down to their trucks while delivering them to dealers, and it's been reported that a lot of them were replaced as a result.
Jackiejr
Transporter drivers apparently used this stay rod to chain the vehicles down to their trucks while delivering them to dealers, and it's been reported that a lot of them were replaced as a result. [/quote]
Gosh, thank you. Who'd have guessed?
Jackiejr
Just wanting to thank everyone for their useful suggestions and knowledge when I started this thread.
Once I learned all that the car in question needed fixing, seller agreed to $10,000. He had to repair the control arm bushes, brake pads and disks for the roadworthy which cost him $1200.
Having got the car checked out as well as possible I am now the delighted owner of:
"$13,000.
Vehicle 2007 Volvo XC90 D5 Auto 4x4 MY07
Vehicle ID SSE-AD-4712284
Kilometres 139000
Colour Willow Green
Transmission Automatic
Description D5 Wagon 7st 5dr Spts Auto 6sp 4x4 2.4DT [MY07]"
Thank you and G-d bless.
Ex850R
Lovely!
Well done in your search and seeking out the knowledgeable lads here and of course John.
You can buy parts needed from FCP Euro in USA and shipped here cheaper than buying here. Plus, lifetime replacement warranty! Yes! Send them back for replacement and only pay postage, an absolute bargain. John will help out installing the bits.
I am wondering if smaller diameter wheels and therefore the tyres t won't wear as quickly is the best idea?
Shop around for replacement tyres once you need them, keep the suspension fresh and alignments done at a recommended tyre place, not all shops are great at wheel alignments and a good one will tailor the job to suit rather than just to spec.
Wheels off an earlier model perhaps.
Tyre experts can help.
@AshDVS?
