timbo;c-146027 wroteI fit dozens of genuine timing belts for our local Volvo and focus customers. They can happily do 180,000km or 10yrs and only start showing signs of fatigue about 11yrs.
@ramrod has no idea what he's talking about.
I've now had over 50 failures referred to me in the last 5 years that broke prior to 10 years or 180k
All Volvo genuine parts
Imho 7 years or 120k is pretty cheap insurance for how expensive a motor swap is
Philia_Bear;c-146045 wrote
timbo;c-146027 wroteI fit dozens of genuine timing belts for our local Volvo and focus customers. They can happily do 180,000km or 10yrs and only start showing signs of fatigue about 11yrs.
@ramrod has no idea what he's talking about.
I've now had over 50 failures referred to me in the last 5 years that broke prior to 10 years or 180k
All Volvo genuine parts
Imho 7 years or 120k is pretty cheap insurance for how expensive a motor swap is
Refered to you for what? Petrol or diesel will do 10yrs/180,000 I have never seen one failure on the RNC or diesel so hard to believe your 50
Yes quite different to "I fit dozens of genuine belts that happily last 180000 and 10 years"

Are you monitoring each and every "dozen" belts every year to constantly check wear, and somehow expect said belt to still be fine at 10 years, but not 11? That's the magic number is it? Useless.

OP, do what you wish with your belt replacement. It's not my money and it's not my engine!
ramrod;c-146052 wroteYes quite different to "I fit dozens of genuine belts that happily last 180000 and 10 years"

Are you monitoring each and every "dozen" belts every year to constantly check wear, and somehow expect said belt to still be fine at 10 years, but not 11? That's the magic number is it? Useless.

OP, do what you wish with your belt replacement. It's not my money and it's not my engine!
I fix these cars daily and back my work with a warranty while you assholes talk shit on the internet
I've always struggled to accept that years of use is so critical. Case in point is an exchange engine fitted to my daughter's C30 that came pre-fitted with belt and tensioner from the factory. The engine was certainly brand new and no date (to my knowledge). So maybe that belt is already 5 years old, but based on "the book" it's now got 10 Years till next interval.

I get that these things deteriorate with time, especially in hotter more humid environments, but is time really that critical? Let's say you've got a 14 year old car that's only done 40K.... How can the belt be safe at 180K / 10 years and not 14YO/40K? (And on that 40K car is it really even necessary to change anything but the belt?)

The other BIG issue left out of the discussion is what sort of use the car has had. I might trust the 180K on a 95% highway car in a cooler climate, not on a CBD runabout.

Not saying to ignore time limits to a ridiculous extent, just that KLMS is more my guide (just changed my V50 at 11 years / 85K, and it was the KLMS that made me spend the $ because I didn't feel comfortable up around 100K not knowing what type of driving was done in the first 70K).

I've also got a Renault Megane that says every 4 Years, WTF. Belt done about 2 years ago and only 5K clocked up, at that rate I can't justify a new belt inside 15 years.
From @bahaimus for sale thread 2006 model lasted 12yrs without assploding


Well I'm not a mechanic, but I've certainly heard of failures so I'm inclined to believe the stats @Philia_Bear put forward. Lately I've read about a few timing belt failures caused by drive belt failure involvement, so I'll be changing mine out (inc tensioners / idlers) at the same time along with the water pump.

FWIW, I'm at 65K and 9 years.
As in industry preventative maintenance is your friend.
Environment elements guide you as to when to change. Looking at the bt and understanding the usage of said vehicle is your guide, particularly as peeps shy away from unneeded costs, everyone is a tight arse...

This he said she said ain't useful.
Can we move one.
Were got here because ramrod started flaming the op for following the timing belt schedule and philiabear decided to quote made up data to back him up
timbo;c-146051 wrote
Philia_Bear;c-146045 wrote
timbo;c-146027 wroteI fit dozens of genuine timing belts for our local Volvo and focus customers. They can happily do 180,000km or 10yrs and only start showing signs of fatigue about 11yrs.
@ramrod has no idea what he's talking about.
I've now had over 50 failures referred to me in the last 5 years that broke prior to 10 years or 180k
All Volvo genuine parts
Imho 7 years or 120k is pretty cheap insurance for how expensive a motor swap is
Refered to you for what? Petrol or diesel will do 10yrs/180,000 I have never seen one failure on the RNC or diesel so hard to believe your 50
Assistance taking dealers/Volvo to ncat or equivilent
And or just providing an independent opinion to my current employer

I also have access to a lease companies full database covering over 100k cars in Australia alone and >500k world wide

Failure can also mean the belt has started failing but not fully failed yet (delamination etc)

Just to be clear as well I have seen one d5 sitting at 300000km on the factory belt and it still looked brand new
Belt life is far more about engine hours than anything else

timbo;c-146069 wroteWere got here because ramrod started flaming the op for following the timing belt schedule and philiabear decided to quote made up data to back him up
Happy to compare epenis size at the national meet this weekend
Big difference between a timing belt failure and delamination of the timing belt.
Once again your data is not from actually working on the cars day in day out.
From what I've heard it isn't always the belts that fail. The idlers seize and then the SHTF anyway.
SO knowing this valuable piece of daaaata,

Git er done
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