Brake upgrade 140

oldman · 2016-12-28T07:54:27+00:00

164 brakes are the first upgrade. From there its a case of how much do you want to spend and why do you want to slow down faster?

deleted_user_160

That's good food for thought there.

What's the other relatively easy options?

Kinds like the 850 fronts on 7/9 series.
Anything else swap over? Or any other cars kits come close?

As it was my understanding that some decades ago, the holds. Guys used to run off with our brakes to retrofit to their cars. Could some of the modern wilwood or brembo kits reverse fit to us?

guru

Thx spac. Good info. Appears correct with hubs ( except for studs that may need to be longer for the 164e rotors) Checked with bloke in US again and reply was ....Used slightly longer studs because the rotor hats are slightly thicker, machined most of the raised portion of the caliper's mounting surfaces off where the bolts go through the caliper, made custom lines to adapt the 240 caliper to the 140 chassis, and otherwise I think that's about it.

guru

deleted_user_160

Now we are cooking.
If the 240 calipers can adapt, is there a possibility that DVS rx7-240 adaptors could work.?

Philia_Bear

blondejay;95623 wroteNow we are cooking.
If the 240 calipers can adapt, is there a possibility that 240->P2 adapters could work.?

Fixed for something better...

XC60 328mm brakes on a 140 series would be amusing

Vee_Que

Not with a 15" or 16" rim..

guru

Jay, pics a 240 caliper on 142 with 164e discs

guru

And yes, RX7 are a lot lighter

deleted_user_160

guru;95638 wroteJay, pics a 240 caliper on 142 with 164e discs
And yes, RX7 are a lot lighter

Yeah picked up on that, just wanted to push that question with the rx7 calipers out there.

Something that @AshDVS could really sus out.
Understandably there isn't too many of us modifying 140/160 locally. So I guess the questions/practice hasn't been put in.
Definitely looking into this further now

Vee_Que

The spacing may be the same so it could also suit the 122, and the xg falcon vented hub will fit with a bearing change as a bonus... Only ten or so mm bigger, but. Vented is a plus.

Major Ledfoot

Spac;95602 wroteNoting that nobody seems to be saying "I tried it and it didn't work because...", I want to shut down the whole different hubs thing, but I accept the possibility that there's a particular model of 140 out there that had different hubs...

Real-world experience sometimes disagrees with what's in the book, and this appears to a an example of it.

The part numbers in the book show vented rotors and non-vented use different hubs. How are they different, beyond part numbers? Ummm, well, I dunno. Since you've swapped 'em back 'n' forth in your real-world experience, the difference can't be that big.

When I have the opportunity, I'll put a 164E hub next to a 140 hub, and see what difference there is - if any.

Since I already have 164 hubs (heh), calipers and rotors, that's the route I'm taking with my 140 trio.

deleted_user_160

It was probably the different between a 50 and 100 note

guru

I'd be keen for RX7 adapter's, but the 164e discs are discontinued part, although still available , but getting harder to find

deleted_user_160

Other companies like brembo rda/ebc still make them no?

Spac

I sort of dummy fitted one Ash's RX-7 adaptors to a 164 upright. IIRC, the adaptor bracket would mount up to the inside face of the upright and that would place the caliper in the correct place over the 740 rotor.
You'd need to machine the "wrong side" of mounting face flat, but looked like it would all work perfectly otherwise.

There's photos I put up somewhere, which will be clearer and more accurate than my memory.

deleted_user_160

740 rotor on 140/160 hubs?

guru

Discontinued on RDA. But still about

guru

No idea what the 740 hub is like

deleted_user_160

Huh?

guru

Disregard my last. Didn't see ones above

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