carnut1100
Bigus Dickus!
Vee_Que
Received the intercooler. Next step is to work out brackets and mounting etc. At the least I'd like to make and sell brackets for others to be able to buy this size cooler and just bolt it in to their 740 with no other modifications.
Ex850R
Alex , why not sell the intercoolers on with the brackets already welded on? Custom fit.
Vee_Que
Because I don't know how much of a market there is as I've had no-one with a turbo RWD Volvo comment on here about it...
Ben
I'd be in the market for a 2 series bolt-in late this year.
Angus242164
http://zyrex.org/gallery/Cars/acw/IC+and+airbox/
600x300x70mm, cost about $130 back in 2006, not including piping. Took about two weeks to install, lots of butchery involved as you can see, but it's big, and the AC is retained. Would have been much quicker and easier to install if I had a welder back then, brackets could have been welded up instead of bolted and screwed together.
The setup has performed flawlessly for the last 8 years/200,000km.
Ex850R
Thats a big i/cooler for purpose isnt it ? I suppose you have to work with available sizes but it seems way overkill for a 2.3lt , evn the 850 I/C is tiny by comparison and probably could be used couldnt it?
Does the Ford XR6T STD cooler have back outlets? Maybe buying cores and fabbing what is needed could work if peeps will pay a reasonable charge for my time , i just need a decent A/C TIG and three phase power , mmm , time to visit old mate at his workshop and see what he has there....Any one have links to core supplies? Maybe modifying others is possible too.
Vee_Que
Angus's solution is what I want to avoid. Too much stuff moved and the core is huge still. Fabbing things still makes it to expensive for what I'm thinking. 450x300 is just narrow enough to not need to replace the stock air box and most piping. Xr6t ba-bf is different shape tanks for our use. Fg xr6t is smaller but slightly wider than stock. Aftermarket one is way too tall and stepped and close to $400. The one I have is around $150 and in between stock ic height and xr6t upgrade size.
Vee_Que
I have a massive truck intercooler that could be used for core. But the fact is, as welders I've spoken to have said, they can't do the labour in what a 600 or 450x300 could be made in. Vs just buying the swedish bolt on one.
Angus242164
I figure bigger is better* Les, it hasn't got much to do with the displacement of the engine, as that's not what is heating up the compressed intake air. This was the biggest IC I could fit without extreme mods, although as you can see the mods weren't insignificant, and it also happened to be the cheapest generic IC size you could buy at the time.
*In theory an IC with a big internal volume will take longer to pressurise, likewise large diameter intake piping, which can mean that boost takes longer to build, making the car less responsive, but in reality any difference wasn't enough for me to be able to notice.
Ex850R
Overcoming the standard I/C ERS poor efficiency and corresponding increase in power /torque may have muddied the seat of pants experience?
Vee_Que
Marcs 740t when owned by disco had a similar sized cooler and ran an impressive quarter mile time for a stockish 740t too. I want to do back to back testing for what I'm doing too
Angus242164
It's possible Les, I felt no immediate change to the performance of the car when I changed the IC and air filter setup, which is what I expected, the purpose of the exercise was to be able to support future mods, ie: being able to cool the intake air effectively at higher than stock boost, and allowing for increased flow through the intake system.
Vee_Que
It's more about repeat performance. For me. Lining up at the drags, stalling the engine up and launching make enough heat to bring down the times of the stock ic if we go off what Mr. Price says on his site which is about 20 seconds. It takes longer than that plus the other heat transfer from idling waiting to line up.
Ex850R
So for drags a charge to water intercooler would be a better thing?
Vee_Que
For a dedicated drag car yes. For a daily that sometimes drag races. No, still way too much hassle and expense.
Ex850R
Foam eski around the I/C full of ice , dry ice.....
Tigabu
Or @GT_Paul setup of meth injection under load/boost B-)
Vee_Que
That is a good addition but not with efi. Also not really related to the subject in trying to discuss.
Tigabu
So there :-P
All good ;-)
