My Volvo - 2013 S60 T6 R-Design

know1 · 2018-07-16T02:34:05+00:00

Spent the weekend, sound deadening the doors. It might be placebo but IMO the sound now is cleaner, and the bass hits harder. The cabin was quiet already, bu...

timbo

@know1 I haven't had much to do with wiring on these models but on the c30/P1 chassis the infotainment module is also a pass through for all the canbus communication to the dash cluster and SWM. SWM holds the terminating resistor for the high speed canbus.

thezonepolestar

timbo;c-141747 wrotehttp://www.hpamotorsports.com/touchmotion-awd-programmer

Haldex is not an overly complicated system so they are tuneable, just less common for the Volvo crowd to modify their cars

I'm pretty sure this is for VAG cars only. I doubt this would work on a Volvo. I would love to be able to modify the haldex on my S60. I did it on my VW R32 and it was a massive improvement.

timbo

thezonepolestar;c-141751 wrote
timbo;c-141747 wrotehttp://www.hpamotorsports.com/touchmotion-awd-programmer

Haldex is not an overly complicated system so they are tuneable, just less common for the Volvo crowd to modify their cars
I'm pretty sure this is for VAG cars only. I doubt this would work on a Volvo. I would love to be able to modify the haldex on my S60. I did it on my VW R32 and it was a massive improvement.

Have you seen the AWD converted C30? They used a gen 3 haldex and didn't need to program anything. It's really only possible to have decent AWD with an LSD in the front though but it's proof that it's doable. Development is just slower with Volvo than any of the more popular brands

know1

@timbo I haven't actually poked around in the wiring, only looked at the diagrams but it looks the same on the P3 (s60 at least)
The ICM (the screen in the middle of the dash) sits on the low and hi speed CANbuses plus LINbus. Steering Wheel (SWM) is also on the CANbus and LINbus. Anything touching those is just a nightmare, sort of hinted at in the wiring diagram designation of 3/130 + 3/281 in the 3/ group with all the other "car" modules.
ICM is also hooked into the MOST bus, I'm guessing it is the Network and probably timing master for the MOST, and everything else is just an FBlock. This should mean changes to IAM unit are isolated and don't need to know about CANbus stuff. Without ever testing it though I have no idea what the ICM will do if it can't see or talk correctly to the IAM unit because it has been remove or replaced.

I would hope it just throws some errors but the car still runs, albeit minus GPS and some toonz. Would be very nasty if losing the radio means the ICM shuts down completely and you can't drive the car even.

Cheers

Ex850R

The Polestar was made with more rear wheel bias with the same Haldex.

Ex850R

Volvo and no doubt many others have leeway in the ecu for a wider range of parameters than the optimal, standard tune.
My 1998 v70t could handle a big IC, larger charge air pipes and an MBC with no issues. It used Motronic 4.4, no doubt the modern volvos have computing power that makes my old bus look like an Apollo rocket control system.
Evidence from others using the DP upgrade shows that it works really well, opening up the restriction that volvo built into it for whatever reasons.
As @timbo says, it may or may not throw a CEL for the rear O2 but is easily remedied.
I'll be doing a tune anyway.
Hopefully MTE has got there's going, they are the goods.

timbo

@know1 have you seen these adaptors?

https://www.justcarkits.co.uk/acatalog/10-800-fibre-optic-interface-for-Parrot-MKi9000-MKi9100-MKi9200.html

know1

timbo;c-141764 wrote@know1 have you seen these adaptors?

https://www.justcarkits.co.uk/acatalog/10-800-fibre-optic-interface-for-Parrot-MKi9000-MKi9100-MKi9200.html

I hadn't. Looks damned promising. Not a lot of use for me as I have the BT handsfree, but promising that someone is making stuff and reverse engineering the MOST stuff to add extra functionality. Also encouraging it works with so many makes and models. My research showed they're all slightly different comms, means they must sit on the loop detect the protocol being spoken and adapt.

P.S. MOST is the worst acronym, but paired with ICT (the manufacturer of that box) the google results are all over the place.

Edit: that link is gold given me some new search terms that turned up this
http://www.xcarlink.co.uk/product.php?productid=464

Looks similar to what the touch connect is/does but instead of running the parrot Asteroid gimped for Volvo OS, looks like it runs real Android. Albeit a little old at 4.4.2 but if it's already running Android can probably run later versions.
I can't find how it interfaces though, guessing MOST Fibre but the page just says "The android module connects direclty to the Xcarlink Multimedai Interface" besides the spelling mistakes it's also light on detail.

timbo

That looks promising I also found these

https://incartec.co.uk/product/Volvo-XC90-CAN-bus-link-lead

https://incartec.co.uk/product/Volvo-XC90-03-14-amplifier-bypass-cable

Vee_Que

know1;c-141749 wrote
timbo;c-141747 wrotejust less common for the Volvo crowd to modify their cars
Haha so right, that's been the major finding since getting my Volvo, there's not a lot of aftermarket, tuning, performance stuff or even good information. Seems Volvo buyers are happy with stock, unlike the Subaru, Toyota, Commonodore crowd.

Only with new ones. When you get to the good volvos. You do modify them. In general I've noticed people prefer modifying rwd cars anyway.

know1

So poking around some stuff I came across this.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Range-Rover-Land-Rover-Freelander-Sport-Sat-Nav-Main-Head-Unit-31357756-AA-/382427794900
They're identical connectors to the IAM in the XC60
https://www.broekhuis-autos.nl/autoradios-en-navigatiesystemen/volvo

The Jag one is also very similar to the S60 one
https://www.drive2.com/l/6832521/ (jag)
https://www.varaosahaku.fi/fi-en/Search/Car-parts/Volvo/VOLVO-S60/2011_2013/Interior/CD-Radio/All/ID-31298758/OEM-31326220+AA/ (volvo)

Different part numbers but quite possible it's a drop in replace. Makes sense give the same Ford ownership around that time.
Increases the options for a donor stereo (IAM) especially given they're FoMoCo parts, maybe something from a Focus or similar may fit.
Now I just need to find something from that era that had some sort of better connectivity, ideally Apply Carplay or Android Auto. Hmmm these guys make a retrofit box for Range/Landrover possibly work in a volvo http://www.naviplus.com.au/
Not cheap though.

know1

So I got the car back today, nothing I can really report after only a 15 min drive in 5:30pm Melb traffic. 0-50 feels good though :smile:
Too dark to get a decent photo to compare the drop on new springs. The exhaust has a good grunty growl now under load, but is surprisingly quiet at idle.
I can confirm no issues fitting the do88 to an S60 with the radar module. There was also no codes with the IPD downpipe and cat back exhaust, maybe the polestar tune might also be good on std tune.
Looking forward to be able to go for a decent drive and see how it feels.

OZChris

Great to see another S60 in Melbourne. I also have a S60 T6 R-Design, so far I have added the Polestar cat back exhaust. Look forward to your comments on the DO88 and the other mods. Cheers Chris

Ex850R

I too am keen to see,
Did they take any pictures for you?
Long shot....

Let me know about your old parts exhaust, springs.

I'll build a bigger exhaust off yours as a jig.
The springs may go to @AshDVS for measurement
Cheers. Les

know1

Sorry no pics of the build in progress, I did ask as a maybe, but I guess being a shop they're more focussed on working that photography :smile;
I have the springs and old intercooler but couldn't fit the old exhaust into the car so that's at SP.

Here's the before and after pics of the spring drop, it's very subtle. So subtle you really can't tell with the dark shadow of crappy Melbourne morning sun. I guess it is only a 15mm drop, plus they haven't really settled yet.

I'll get an after of the exhaust and post the comparison as soon as I can.

Ex850R

The wheels look good, mine need refurbed so on lookout for these, only ones so far are at crack pipe pricing..

Ex850R

Ohh I can pick up from SP I reckon, shoot me a PM? L

know1

@Ex850R I'll give them a bell and see if they still have it. Do you want just the downpipe or the cat back? I know they had to cut it to remove so not sure how much is intact.

Ex850R

All if possible please. Cut is fine, I can put it together for a jig. Cheers.

know1

I had to ring them this morning, to get them to look at a knocking in the front drivers side, I couldn't see anything obviously loose, possibly an end link, they're going to take a look.
I asked them about the exhaust and sorry looks like they scrapped it.

On positive news I added one of these https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Autool-X50-Plus-OBD2-HUD-Speedometer-Alarm-Clock-Gauges-Head-Up-Display-AUS/112980634098
Works a charm, after previous car and digital readout I disliked the old dial speedo. This gives me back the digital readout, and seems more accurate than the normal gauge (confirmed with Android GPS app).
Added bonus it has Engine Temp and Voltage as well, although they are customizable to show other things like boost etc.

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