Wino
Yeah but apparently the inputs are all different and stuff.
Vee_Que
They should be able to swap?
Spac
Do you have someone with a clue looking at this?
Or is it just a gronk who was expecting to bolt it all together?
timbo
The gearbox shop that is doing the work would know if it's possible. They're quite capable.
We're talking early E series BMW which in itself had 3 different getrag setups.
Wino
Spac
I have an ex-Group A Commodore Getrag with a close ratio gearset (2.6:1 first, 1:1 fifth) if you are keen?
Have you hit up Michael Smola? Pretty sure that he had a couple of 5-speeds to suit an M10 at his dad's place in Newcastle.
Wino
Cheers for the offer but this is the 6 series... I've been offered a CR dogleg (with a price to match...) but CR gears in a grand tourer isn't really what i'm wanting for obvious reasons... it's not a race car... although they did race them, I guess.
Well it turns out there's a very big reason why the whole Commodore shenanigans didn't work... I have a 265/6, not a 260/5.
260/5 was the gearbox in the later E24's, but my car was a factory automatic, someone converted it to manual prior to the year 2000 (when it was first registered in the ACT)
I wonder where they got the gearbox from, as it was used in M series cars and E28 M353's, etc, which sucks as it means they're worth actual money.
Alex (old mate who put the compression back into my E21's motor) works near the tranny shop where the car is, he tried matching first gears between the M10 E21 4 speed (Getrag 240) and the gearbox I had and they are different, with the 265/6 gears being much beefier than the 240 ones.
Ex850R
Asked at the wrecker, no way he says.
Wino
You did that for me? I'm all warm and fuzzy. Cheers
Ex850R
I meant to earlier but was crook , he is saying not hope of even rebuilds as far as he knows.
Maybe a later model box can be built in? It happens to Volvo....
Why not a whiteblock while yer at it!?
Spac
Talk to Pip Barker down in Tathra. I have his number here somewhere if you can't find him.
Can a M10 box bolt up to the 6-cylinder motor (M20?).
Wino
Ok, will do. Good thing with a name as unique as that is a phone number with the first hit on Google...
M10 and M30 are compatible as the M30 is literally 1.5 M10's, unfortunately M20 is a totally different design.
My car is M30 powered
M10 boxes behind M30's, although works for a short amount of time, results in exploded gearboxes for obvious reasons. M30 gearboxes behind M10's is also not ideal as they're much too big for the chassis' that M10's usually sit in.
I've had a PM from a bloke in the US who may have a gearset for me, he pulled in in the early 90's to build a competition box with straight cut gears etc.
Worst case, PPG will make me some gears, but bloody hell i'd be putting a lot of hope in the BMW community in regards to buying some remade 265 gears from me, as it's around $10k for a batch of 10...
Ex850R
My machinist mate could do it, send me specs if you have, schematic.
I'll ask him.
Maybe laser cutting is an option, with final finish milling then heat treatment.
Wino
Jeez Pip Barker has some decent BMW credentials, bloody hell
No worries Snoops, i'll try and find one...
I've been offered an M30 manual box (260/5) which is the later model E28 box... it'll work, but the speedo drive is different and i'd need a new crossmember and driveshaft. Lots of work for what is still a 30 year old gearbox that is weaker than the one I have.
Whoever converted this car to manual did it in the most expensive way possible, even the driveshaft is a BMW Motorsport alloy one.
Ex850R
Wish I had my 2002 now..
There's an old 4dr on my local BSS. I'm trying not to look...
Wino
I wish i'd bought Spac's for the price that we agreed on way back when...
Ex850R
Wish I had my 2002 now..
There's an old 4dr on my local BSS. I'm trying not to look...
Patina... Must leave it.
Wino
Vee_Que
Holy shit. What was wrong with the box?
Philia_Bear
If the current box is some form of rare motorsports box with motorsports parts around it...
Why not sell or trade it and drop in a 120i motor with 6 speed manual?
