Toms 2zzge 74' 142

Trex · 2018-05-12T22:59:17+00:00

Looks like it will be a great project! Interested to see how you go with the 240 front brake conversion. Another guy in our club has been working on that as...

Major Ledfoot

Roinik;136613 wroteDo they do a good job on the earlier dashes?

Yes, which is why I've kept going back - I've had a number of 140 projects on the boil. The guy used to do lots of the RHD dashes for US cars converted from LHD.

Trex

Thanks for all the info bg! I’ll keep DRS in mind, but with shipping costs and labor I’m sure it won’t be a cheap fix like I was looking for.
May give it a go myself and cover it in leather :)

Trex

Fixed the headlight surrounds and grill yesterday, found some 7” clear lights. Still unsure whether I shave the indicators or do the clear and amber ones.

Major Ledfoot

Those clear lights look good. The dash top repair is around about $260, which is a bargain AFAIC.
Clips to hold the headlights in place are still available from Skandix and others.

One thing which you'll find invaluable for the build is the parts catalogue from Genuine Classic Parts, http://www.gcp.se.
- choose English (by flag)
- click on Catalogues on top right
- choose 140 / See Catalogues
- choose 1973-

This opens up a 'Weblisher' window, Click to open the publication, and it opens up a new tab.

On the right of screen, between the print icon and the text search box, is a strange looking icon that you select to download a PDF copy of the parts catalogue - which is searchable, but Section 8 (body parts) is missing. Every other section is there though, and it's ideal for working out parts numbers for stuff and how things fit together.

Trex

Thanks for all the info @bgpzfm142 How good is that parts catalogue! I decided to flatten the dash and flock it instead, should be sub $60.

Been doing things here and there on the car. new carpet, seat covers, new rear side window rubbers, just an all round cleanup... There's a lot to do haha. I've been inspecting most parts on the car and they all seem to be alright, even pulling the tank out showed no rust and looked brand new inside. Tim and I were saying that this whole build has been effortless and funny as things just seem to fall into place and work.

Thanks to vince i got a lovell rear swaybar, koni adjustable rear shocks, 8kg front springs and a whole bunch of stuff.
And thanks to @paul0075 for the calipers and original 140 wheels.

Brakes are almost done. Ordering 6 lines and a master cyl rebuild kit from cvi this weekend. Front rotors are now vented 263x22, and picking up some 850 rear calipers to finish off the brakes.

I've been putting off tackling the dash and wiring, but looks like were at that point already.

Picking up another 144 b20b with m40 for spare parts, please message me if anyone needs anything.

Trex

Here are some photos

Vee_Que

How are you planning to fit 240 Calipers? To my understanding with a mates 142, they don't fit very well.

Not my style, internet points don't do it for me, actually driving does, but cool.

Trex

Vee_Que;c-138990 wroteHow are you planning to fit 240 Calipers? To my understanding with a mates 142, they don't fit very well.

Not my style, internet points don't do it for me, actually driving does, but cool.

They didn't fit very well at the start, but a few internet points later they bolted right up.

Trex

@Vee_Que The brake caliper knuckles will need 2.3mm taken off the backside so they sit perfectly centered.
The reason for the brake upgrade and suspension mods is to start doing hillclimbs, we're pretty lucky to have our own track in canberra.
How did you find the 164 brakes upgrade on your 140?

timbo

Vee_Que;138990 wroteHow are you planning to fit 240 Calipers? To my understanding with a mates 142, they don't fit very well.

Drill out the mounting holes to 1/2 inch. Grind a few mm from inside edge of caliper mounting surface. Bolt on 240 vented front brake setup. The calipers sit a little higher on the rotor and the top of the brake pad surface overhangs a couple of mm but considering the calipers were free and original calipers were seized it's a pretty good option

Vee_Que

The rims are flipped kuga rims right? The massive offset and loss of support is not really something I'd consider for a handling upgrade, with the extra stress on the outside bearing under corners etc.

8kg springs combined with the rims definitely and the interior being done that way instead of stripped out. looks to me like stance rather than handling. But if the rims are not permanent, awesome.

Any plans for the b20b engine then? Deck to 11:1, larger su's and an electric fuel pump upgrade?

Trex

The wheels, brakes, and suspension are fine.
The whole interior weighs about 50kg so it’s not worth getting rid of it.

No plans for the b20 yet. Plenty of ideas. But no plans.

timbo

It still has to pass a roadworthy too so can't go stripping it yet. It's literally got some cheap seat covers on it and that's all.
The stock 120/140 stub axles are piss weak and will flex once you have some decent wide wheels and sticky tyres on them so it's not much worse with the flipped kugas than some more sensible old man wheels.
We crack test stub axles here for some of the local British car club guys and it's not unusual at all to see cracks forming on the underside of the stub axle on relatively stock cars that don't see the track. We are under no illusions as to the extra stress being placed on them

Wheel bearings will be checked periodically and have spare stub axles as a contingency.
Have a spare b20b and 4 spd aswell
Main idea is to do this on the cheap and not take shit too seriously.

Trex

Would be fun to see what time it could do though haha

And as tim said, make no assumptions. This isn’t an all out build or a race car or anything in particular. This car is us having fun

Ex850R

Trex;c-138991 wrote
Vee_Que;c-138990 wroteHow are you planning to fit 240 Calipers? To my understanding with a mates 142, they don't fit very well.

Not my style, internet points don't do it for me, actually driving does, but cool.
They didn't fit very well at the start, but a few internet points later they bolted right up.

Who hands out these points?
Where do I cash them in?
Can I trade Biggus Dickus points for them?
Who even mentioned points....
Why?

Trex

As usual I’ve been lazy and waiting for a day it’s not freezing cold and wet outside to get stuff done.
240 vented front done. Rear 850 done. Still waiting for my order from cvi for new lines and bmc rebuild kit.
Changed the ign barrel and all locks on the car and set the door gaps.

Stripped the rest of the 144, got the whole front crossmember and associated parts. Will modify the diff centre and have spare axles and Paul grabbed some stuff which is good to see :)

Struggled a bit with the dash in this low light, can’t find some screws to remove the dash?
I decided im going to remove the whole heater box jungle as nothing works and put in another kit to just demist.

We’ve done heaps of random stuff as you’d probably expect from the state of the base.

Trex

I decided against the flares after I posted the other photo. But then off a whim I fitted them again, and I love it.

Started fixing the dash. Filled the large gaps with expanding foam and put pc clear epoxy over the top, pc clear is a shatter proof and moveable epoxy. Have some nylon flock on it’s way from the US. Couldn’t find nylon flock anywhere in aus.

Trex

@Vee_Que I’ve been doing stupid amounts of research on the b20’s head design and get differeing information and power outputs as I’m sure you’re aware. Americans are great at claiming stupid power.
The std head design ports and bowl all seem great to me, I can’t see a way to improve them without sacrificing a complete burn in the middle of the piston or losing low to mid range. What did you find when doing all yours?

Is the std compression 10:1? I was thinking of decking much higher and using 98 and sending it.

carnut222

I like the flares! Wow, that dash pad was toast! You couldn’t find another one that was decent for cheap I guess? I think the early 240 ones might fit but not sure? Going to be good to see this car in person one day!

Trex

carnut222;c-141044 wroteI like the flares! Wow, that dash pad was toast! You couldn’t find another one that was decent for cheap I guess? I think the early 240 ones might fit but not sure? Going to be good to see this car in person one day!

Haha the dash is horrible, it was barely hanging on. The original idea was to put a dash mat over it, but they’re impossible to find. I didn’t want to send this one away or get a replacement so fixing and flocking was the next best thing. Should turn out alright fingers crossed