Advice on XC90 (06-09)

ojeriojo · 2018-02-03T15:37:15+00:00

Frank ogradys in Perth did a couple of checks for me when I bought my Xc90. They were recommended by Mark at Berry's here in Victoria. They were good. I'm...

kyril

I agree @VolvoDeger and I'm in a position to know. It was a deciding factor in my purchase of an xc90. The things are tanks.

In mine alone I had a big arse roo jump into the drivers door of mine at 100kmh. Not a dent. The drivers mirror was second hand but the was more fur left on the rear wheel arch than paint of the car. Compare that to a 10 year younger vf11 Commodore ute that had the same thing happen and the door and b pillar looked very second hand. Now the Commodore is not an unsafe car by any means but some are built to a much higher standard!

Canoe

kyril;129584 wroteI agree @VolvoDeger and I'm in a position to know. It was a deciding factor in my purchase of an xc90. The things are tanks.

In mine alone I had a big arse roo jump into the drivers door of mine at 100kmh. Not a dent. The drivers mirror was second hand but the was more fur left on the rear wheel arch than paint of the car. Compare that to a 10 year younger vf11 Commodore ute that had the same thing happen and the door and b pillar looked very second hand. Now the Commodore is not an unsafe car by any means but some are built to a much higher standard!

The difference between life and death is brakes and weight of the car. A 240 will stop WAY quicker than a XC. My 240 saved me many times,by stopping me before i hit anything. The safety belt stopped me from going into the windscreen. lol

Ex850R

^that logic comes to you from the same logic that you shouldn't wear safety belts!
Those evil things keep you stuck in the car when, if you were not so encumbered, you could open the door and jump to safety, avoiding the big crash and being injured, trapped in the death machine.
Yep, folks, some say sterilisation of stoopid is a bad thing! ;¬]

kyril

@Canoe I agree. But It's the times you don't get a chance to hit the brakes that passive safety built into vehicles makes its presence known.

I think we agree though that Volvo build very safe cars!

Canoe

Ex850R;129587 wrote^that logic comes to you from the same logic that you shouldn't wear safety belts!
Those evil things keep you stuck in the car when, if you were not so encumbered, you could open the door and jump to safety, avoiding the big crash and being injured, trapped in the death machine.
Yep, folks, some say sterilisation of stoopid is a bad thing! ;¬]

What ARE you talking about?
I was pointing out, my 240 brakes are so good, they would put me through the windscreen. The belt stopped that.

Canoe

kyril;129588 wrote@Canoe I agree. But It's the times you don't get a chance to hit the brakes that passive safety built into vehicles makes its presence known.

I think we agree though that Volvo build very safe cars!

Im not trying to argue, just pointing out that brakes saves lives. The weight of the car also determines the damage done to the occupants. The lighter the car, the less damage. That why i love my 240. Its light, plus super brakes.

Philia_Bear

Canoe;129586 wrote
kyril;129584 wroteI agree @VolvoDeger and I'm in a position to know. It was a deciding factor in my purchase of an xc90. The things are tanks.

In mine alone I had a big arse roo jump into the drivers door of mine at 100kmh. Not a dent. The drivers mirror was second hand but the was more fur left on the rear wheel arch than paint of the car. Compare that to a 10 year younger vf11 Commodore ute that had the same thing happen and the door and b pillar looked very second hand. Now the Commodore is not an unsafe car by any means but some are built to a much higher standard!
The difference between life and death is brakes and weight of the car. A 240 will stop WAY quicker than a XC. My 240 saved me many times,by stopping me before i hit anything. The safety belt stopped me from going into the windscreen. lol

Amazingly your totally wrong
A xc90 will panic stop in dry or wet 10s of meters faster than a 240

Philia_Bear

Canoe;129589 wrote
Ex850R;129587 wrote^that logic comes to you from the same logic that you shouldn't wear safety belts!
Those evil things keep you stuck in the car when, if you were not so encumbered, you could open the door and jump to safety, avoiding the big crash and being injured, trapped in the death machine.
Yep, folks, some say sterilisation of stoopid is a bad thing! ;¬]
What ARE you talking about?
I was pointing out, my 240 brakes are so good, they would put me through the windscreen. The belt stopped that.

Drive a xc90 with the stock 336mm rotors
They blow the pants of any 240

Canoe

Philia_Bear;129591 wrote
Canoe;129586 wrote
kyril;129584 wroteI agree @VolvoDeger and I'm in a position to know. It was a deciding factor in my purchase of an xc90. The things are tanks.

In mine alone I had a big arse roo jump into the drivers door of mine at 100kmh. Not a dent. The drivers mirror was second hand but the was more fur left on the rear wheel arch than paint of the car. Compare that to a 10 year younger vf11 Commodore ute that had the same thing happen and the door and b pillar looked very second hand. Now the Commodore is not an unsafe car by any means but some are built to a much higher standard!
The difference between life and death is brakes and weight of the car. A 240 will stop WAY quicker than a XC. My 240 saved me many times,by stopping me before i hit anything. The safety belt stopped me from going into the windscreen. lol

Amazingly your totally wrong
A xc90 will panic stop in dry or wet 10s of meters faster than a 240

Do you have any proof of this?
"10s of meters" is at least 20 meters.

Philia_Bear

Canoe;129594 wrote
Philia_Bear;129591 wrote
Canoe;129586 wrote
kyril;129584 wroteI agree @VolvoDeger and I'm in a position to know. It was a deciding factor in my purchase of an xc90. The things are tanks.

In mine alone I had a big arse roo jump into the drivers door of mine at 100kmh. Not a dent. The drivers mirror was second hand but the was more fur left on the rear wheel arch than paint of the car. Compare that to a 10 year younger vf11 Commodore ute that had the same thing happen and the door and b pillar looked very second hand. Now the Commodore is not an unsafe car by any means but some are built to a much higher standard!
The difference between life and death is brakes and weight of the car. A 240 will stop WAY quicker than a XC. My 240 saved me many times,by stopping me before i hit anything. The safety belt stopped me from going into the windscreen. lol

Amazingly your totally wrong
A xc90 will panic stop in dry or wet 10s of meters faster than a 240
Do you have any proof of this?

Yes
I own both

The brakes on a 940 blow away a 240
The xc90 are yet again better by a large margin

240 brakes are good by any 1980s standard
They suck compared to a mid 2000 car

A stock xc90 3.2/d5/v8 will out accelerate, out turn and out brake a 240
Deal with it

Canoe

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Deal with it [/quote]

Because you say so?
The mighty "master mechanic" cant handle being questioned.
"Deal with it".

PaddlerEd

Brake test results for 740s, P2 XC90 and the current generation of XC60:
1989 Volvo 740 (so very similar to a 240) 70mph (120kmh) to zero: 176 feet (~53m)
2004 XC90 from 60 (100kmh) to zero: 127 feet (~38m)
2018 XC60 100kmh - 0: 36m

kyril

Not wanting to get into a flame war but for some perspective, I found this post on swedespeed from 2004:
Below are some random brake distances I found from C/D and MotorTrend. So the next time you start complaining about brake dust buildup, take another look at these stats.
70-0 braking @ impending lockup

Porsche Carrera –150 ft. (not sure if this is the GT or not)
Volvo V50 T5 - 163 ft. (amazing! It out-brakes a Corvette!)
Corvette (2003) –164 ft.
Volvo V70 T5 - 167 ft. (better than a Boxter!)
Porsche Boxter - 168 ft.
Volvo S60R - 168 ft. (considering the 60-0 below, I wonder if this is accurate?)
Audi S4 –169 ft.
Porsche Cayenne Turbo - 170 ft.
MB E55 AMG – 173 ft. (this is surprising – and not in a good way)
Ford Freestyle - 192 ft. (well, no surprise really)
Government safety regulation maximum distance from 70: 315 ft. (24 car lengths, but I think that includes reaction time)
Braking 60-0 @ impending lockup
Volvo V70R – 114 ft (wow!)
Toyota Camry – 121 ft. (impressive, as is the Mazda)
Mazda 6 – 121 ft.
Subaru WRX – 123 ft.
Infininti G35 coupe – 124 ft.
Nissan Altima – 125 ft.
MB E500 – 127 ft. (again, surprising)
Volvo XC90 – 127 ft. (among the best in the SUV category)
Honda Accord – 129 ft."

These days tyres plays just as much a part in stopping distance as the person's foot on the brake pedal. Modern abs is light years ahead of older abs.

It is difficult to compare apples with apples, let alone pineapples! :)

pauljloz

Yes more than 10m .. stock.
Prefer to stop in the xc90 over 240 940 v70

Ex850R

Selling my v70r for an xc90!

gavinh

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bigal

[quote="Philia_Bear;]
A stock xc90 3.2/d5/v8 will out accelerate, out turn and out brake a 240
Deal with it [/quote]

Out turn? As in a u-turn?

Ex850R

240 is best at u turning, witness the scrubbed out fronts due to too many u turns!
Great circle tuning they have.

DW42

You hardly ever need 2 attempts at parking a 240 due to the tight turning circle and narrowness of the car. The 240 loses to most modern cars when it comes to rear seat access and rear legroom. Also isn't as quiet to ride in. But still a good family/daily driver all round if well-maintained.

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