Greg & Wayne's 1993 240 Electric - the eVolvo

carnut222 · 2017-07-25T11:11:33+00:00

Most people who do EV conversions choose some tiny sh*t-box like a Daihatsu Charade or Mitsubishi Mirage (both appropriately-named LOL!) but we wanted it to...

carnut222

The other thing is the Tesla stuff is now open source code, whereas not sure how difficult it would be to get the Volvo bits up and running again? I guess if you just go down to basic battery pack and charger it might be possible to get that part usable.

Philia_Bear

carnut222;c-140449 wrote
Philia_Bear;c-140418 wrote
carnut222;c-140379 wroteHmm, would love to get one of these salvage Teslas cheap and upgrade our EV...imagine the possibilities! :)
https://www.pickles.com.au/damaged-salvage/item/search#!/search-result?q=(And.ProductType.Vehicles._.All.keyword(tesla).)
Berry automotive have a written off t8 xc90 they are parting out
15kwh battery pack and a 80hp motor set
Yeah I went and looked at the Berry one when they got it about a year ago?? Told Mark I'd take the battery pack if price were reasonable but never got a price. I suspect the asking price may be well more than what it is worth to me and pretty much anyone else, but you never know! The Volvo pack is a bit of an odd shape so would have to be reconfigured. Probably same for Tesla packs, but they contain smaller modules.

They paid like $4k for the entire car
I think this is a make them an offer sort of thing

carnut222

Philia_Bear;c-140454 wrote
carnut222;c-140449 wrote
Philia_Bear;c-140418 wrote
carnut222;c-140379 wroteHmm, would love to get one of these salvage Teslas cheap and upgrade our EV...imagine the possibilities! :)
https://www.pickles.com.au/damaged-salvage/item/search#!/search-result?q=(And.ProductType.Vehicles._.All.keyword(tesla).)
Berry automotive have a written off t8 xc90 they are parting out
15kwh battery pack and a 80hp motor set
Yeah I went and looked at the Berry one when they got it about a year ago?? Told Mark I'd take the battery pack if price were reasonable but never got a price. I suspect the asking price may be well more than what it is worth to me and pretty much anyone else, but you never know! The Volvo pack is a bit of an odd shape so would have to be reconfigured. Probably same for Tesla packs, but they contain smaller modules.
They paid like $4k for the entire car
I think this is a make them an offer sort of thing

I'm afraid to ring Mark at the moment as I just saw his Facebook post about them doing a RWC on an orange 245L that may be on the market soon...Nooooooo! :)

jamesinc

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carnut222

jamesinc;c-140865 wrote@carnut222 featured https://www.facebook.com/ozvolvo/

Cool - thanks! :)

PJQ

Hi Greg and Wayne,
Congrats on a really valuable thread for anyone interested in EV conversions.

I notice you’ve got a fan blower for the motor and oil cooler for the controller, have you had any dramas with battery heat or cold in our climate?

We don’t have the prolonged freeze of the northern hemisphere winter, but the last couple of months in Melbs have been damn frosty. Then we’ve got the other extreme to think about.

Battery temperature problems come up in articles and discussions. This article at the excellent Electric Revs site describes the root cause and research on a solution.
https://electricrevs.com/2018/09/06/researchers-create-self-heating-battery-cells-for-speedier-winter-charging/

Confession - snuck on here to ask about this, I don't have a Volvo ;) Having a project in mind I'm on the learning curve for EV conversion, in the info-gathering stage. My XP Futura Coupe is undergoing ground-up resto. While its a rolling shell is the perfect time to build in battery compartments and fittings for EV conversion.

Cheers,
Pete Q

Spac

Does anyone know what the crashed Teslas sell for?

ramrod

try the damaged auctions pickles and manheim

timbo

Spac;c-145118 wroteDoes anyone know what the crashed Teslas sell for?

In the USA they're going for upto 5k under brand new price. That was for a car with front and rear impact

carnut222

ramrod;c-145127 wrotetry the damaged auctions pickles and manheim

A few have sold and/or been listed recently but not sure whether you can access the sold price. I should get Iceton onto it! :)

carnut222

PJQ;c-145116 wroteHi Greg and Wayne,
Congrats on a really valuable thread for anyone interested in EV conversions.

I notice you’ve got a fan blower for the motor and oil cooler for the controller, have you had any dramas with battery heat or cold in our climate?

We don’t have the prolonged freeze of the northern hemisphere winter, but the last couple of months in Melbs have been damn frosty. Then we’ve got the other extreme to think about.

Battery temperature problems come up in articles and discussions. This article at the excellent Electric Revs site describes the root cause and research on a solution.
https://electricrevs.com/2018/09/06/researchers-create-self-heating-battery-cells-for-speedier-winter-charging/

Confession - snuck on here to ask about this, I don't have a Volvo ;) Having a project in mind I'm on the learning curve for EV conversion, in the info-gathering stage. My XP Futura Coupe is undergoing ground-up resto. While its a rolling shell is the perfect time to build in battery compartments and fittings for EV conversion.

Cheers,
Pete Q

Thanks Pete. Good luck with your conversion. With respect to cooling, we added the blower fan and filter to the motor to prevent dirt being sucked in. It probably was not necessary as the motor never got very hot before it. The Zilla controller requires cooling (in this case it is standard automotive coolant pumped through a small radiator using a 12 v gaming PC pump. Without the cooling on the controller, it will get hot and automatically cut back on power to prevent damage.

The batteries in our conversion are not heated or cooled. We only ever charge using a relatively slow 2.5-3 kW charger so they don’t get too hot, but you would not want to leave it out in the 30-40C heat all day, especially while charging. When I used the car for commuting I was fortunate to have a parking garage so it didn’t have to sit out in the sun. In cold weather, the performance can be a bit sluggish (with more voltage sag than when warm). It doesn’t seem to affect range at all. We now live near Daylesford so yes, we’ve had plenty of frost this winter, but again, we leave the car parked in the shed all the time when at home.

Hope that helps and happy to answer any further questions you might have.

Greg

carnut1100

Wrecked Teslas here go for up to $50-60k however I know someone who just bought one at auction for $16k.
He also bought a wrecked imiev for $1500 which is currently getting stripped to be used to convert a Mk 1 Cortina.

carnut222

carnut1100;c-145148 wroteWrecked Teslas here go for up to $50-60k however I know someone who just bought one at auction for $16k.
He also bought a wrecked imiev for $1500 which is currently getting stripped to be used to convert a Mk 1 Cortina.

Wow $16K sounds like a deal for a wrecked Tesla if the battery pack is intact. I’ll have to keep an eye out. Would love to upgrade our pack some day. Last one I saw at auction was a repairable write-off. I think a stat write-off would be a better deal for parts harvesting as long as it’s not too far gone.

carnut222

I wonder what this one will go for?

carnut222

Nice sunset tonight - reflected in wheel makes it look hot LOL!

carnut222

Was giving the car a bit of a clean and discovered the front passenger carpet was wet...traced it to the windscreen leaking at the lower front corner. Bugger! Have had 2 windscreens put in this car since we’ve owned it...last one was probably 6 years ago. Both genuine Volvo windscreens, and being a 93 they’re the one with the back flush aluminium extrusion bonded to the glass and a flush rubber seal that has a small bulb that presses into a groove in the extrusion. I was able to carefully remove the rubber seal and pumped the top and sides full of latex caulking. Didn’t want to use silicone or urethane as the muppets that installed the previous screens never properly removed the original mastic from the body. On that note, I was always assuming that the factory changed to urethane in the last few years of production, but looking at my 93 parts car sedan, it still has the original windscreen and it’s held in with butyl mastic. So there you have it! Hopefully my caulking job will prevent the bulk of any water getting in behind the rubber lip and finding its way into the car. I did confirm that both of the small lower drain holes are not blocked, so fingers crossed.

Philia_Bear

Speaking of battery packs...
Berry's have a 15kw pack from a xc90 t8 they paid very little money for

carnut222

Philia_Bear;c-158686 wroteSpeaking of battery packs...
Berry's have a 15kw pack from a xc90 t8 they paid very little money for

Yeah I’ve been eyeing that since they got it some years ago. Not sure whether it would be any good if it hasn’t been periodically charged, plus may be hard to integrate as it’s probably all can-bus etc...I think I told Mark $500 a while back but no dice or not sure they were ready to sell, plus I was a bit unsure whether we could use it.

carnut222

Philia_Bear;c-158686 wroteSpeaking of battery packs...
Berry's have a 15kw pack from a xc90 t8 they paid very little money for

P.S. I assume you’re talking about the red one they’ve had for a long time unless they got a new one I don’t know about.

Philia_Bear

carnut222;c-158688 wrote
Philia_Bear;c-158686 wroteSpeaking of battery packs...
Berry's have a 15kw pack from a xc90 t8 they paid very little money for

P.S. I assume you’re talking about the red one they’ve had for a long time unless they got a new one I don’t know about.

same one they have had for a little while
The pack was near fully charged when pulled so it should still be fine
If I was to use it I would just be bypassing any existing BMS system and putting in a new one as one would likely need to break the thing apart anyways to make it fit into a new space etc...

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