Philia_Bear
Nelpd96;108423 wroteNot needed, it is going into a fwd car
Ahh
Cool
Nelpd96
Plan is to do the steering rack swap tonight, drop the AWD box Tues night. Timing belt Wed night. Pick up the new FWD Box Thursday and button it up for install on the weekend. Will leave the 320mm brakes and other bits until I know it is running ok with the new motor in there.
Nelpd96
Timing belt done, will try and get the AWD box off tonight. I don't have much room to play with.
Nelpd96
Nelpd96
Have got sway bar bushes coming tomorrow then assuming there are no issues with the gearbox I should get it back in the car this weekend.
V8HUNTER
great news Paul all the best mate
Nelpd96
RIghto so everything is back in and there is fluids in the car but it is not happy. It is dropping a brake warning message which might just be related to low fluid as I have not bled the brake yet from the 320mm swap and it has the immobiliser see manual. Finally the wipers are going bat shit crazy and I can't turn them off the fuse is now pulled so I don't scratch the windscreen.
All this points to some sort of wiring issue but because the immobiliser is doing it's thing I am not getting power to most of the modules so I can't read them with the Dice.
The key still locks and unlocks the car without issue and I am able to turn the key but I am a little lost so if anyone has a cunning idea please let me know.
Cheers
Paul
darcher93
Check ABS harness plugged in correctly. Had an issue with that. Otherwise check fuse box plugged in correctly under passenger footwell.
Nelpd96
Neither of those have been touched since I changed the engine. I have checked the CEM plugs to make sure that they are secure as that is the first thing that pops up when you do a google search. I am not expecting an easy fix. Is there any chance that the pin out is different between the 2005 and 2006 as I retained the engine harness on the 2006 engine to make it easier to swap over.
sucksqueezebangblow
Did u pull all the plugs from the CEM and clean it up?
This worked for me when I had flashing dash when hitting potholes or steering swiftly
Nelpd96
I had a fiddle last night I would note however that I didn't have this problem before I pulled the old engine and the car has not moved since. All modules remain as they were before the swap. Will try putting everything else back together and check ask the plugs....
Chris
I have a vague recollecting of Berry mentioning random issues like the wipers going nuts after pulling and refitting the stereo (i.e. interfering with the car's electrics). if you don't get anywhere, maybe give them a call for some ideas
Philia_Bear
Nelpd96;109834 wroteI had a fiddle last night I would note however that I didn't have this problem before I pulled the old engine and the car has not moved since. All modules remain as they were before the swap. Will try putting everything else back together and check ask the plugs....
You didn't swap ECU's did you?
Nelpd96
Nope I was very deliberate about that as I know that the CEM and BCM talk to the ECM to confirm the key code for starting.
timbo
The engine looms definitely changed a few times over the p1 series. Double check the cem plugs as the wipers go nuts when one of those connectors is removed. Awd and fwd bcm modules are usually different
Philia_Bear
Nelpd96;109844 wroteNope I was very deliberate about that as I know that the CEM and BCM talk to the ECM to confirm the key code for starting.
My thought is then a change in wiring harness
Nelpd96
Yep that is the only thing I can come up with. Wanna swap
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Nelpd96
I have been thinking about what @Philia_Bear is saying. If the general consensus is that a wiring issue is the cause of the crazy wipers and likely other stuff then I need to look at what has changed since I swapped over the motor. The only variable is the engine loom as I left the 2006 AWD loom on the engine and dropped it straight in assuming, incorrectly it appears, that they would be the same. Given that everything else is exactly the same and none of the wiring other than the engine loom was swapped it seems the logical solution.
Next question becomes, can I pull the loom off the engine without having to drop it out of the car. My gut feel is that I can't, at least not without pulling the radiator and inter cooler to get access to the front of the engine.
This wouldn't normally be a problem except someone might have decided to fill the radiator with new coolant which I will now need to try and catch so that I am not wasting fluids. The engine and trans fluid should be ok as I will just be lowering the engine not pulling it out completely.
I may also have to see if the kind gentleman that bought my old engine is willing to swap the looms over.
Cheers
Paul
timbo
You wont need to drop the engine out. Half of the loom runs through the front bar to the powersteering and rh wheel area. The other half across the top and front of the engine and a small loom runs across the firewall.
What modules are active (green) when you plug vida in?
Nelpd96
Only about 5 of the 20 or so, I will hook it up tomorrow and get a screen shot. The majority of them don't seem to be getting power.
