Slowbrick
I had a CV be a jerk in my V70. I ended up giving it a hard hit inwards and then grabbed it with my hands and yanked it out. Hitting it made the little clip move to a different position which helped it pull out.
pastry
Cheers. I'll combine techniques – surely can't fail now!
Slowbrick
Dont hit it *too* hard. Just a few love taps to get it free. I tried the pulling with a bar but it didnt work. I now apply the rule of if you are pulling/pushing too hard then you are probably doing something wrong hahaha.
This is the little guy im talking about.
jamesinc
I just use the CV joint as a slide hammer, has never failed.
Slowbrick
jamesinc;123195 wroteI just use the CV joint as a slide hammer, has never failed.
This is in essence what I did but I used the hammer to shock the clip into moving and then pushed it in and out by hand until it popped out.
pastry
yeah I find they usual come out with a good push pull, but this time the boot popped off..!
drvolvo
Yeah you can't do that with the 6 ball joints only the roller tripod variety. The inner joints on the manual shafts on my XC70 are of that variety, I popped one and spent about 3 hours trying to get all the balls back in the grooves.. yuck! I think the XC90 uses them as they can handle a bigger angle. The bad swede lift kit for a P2 XC70 suggests using XC90 shafts when you do your lift.
pastry
No joy with this a-hole yet
drvolvo
Hmm you do have the tripod variety.. I guess that isn't an AW55?
Maybe just drill it out... a few metal shavings couldn't possibly do any harm to an auto :-)
Have you used all the necessary four letter words yet?
pastry
it's an AW55-51SN, but it's out of an 09 S60 2.5T AWD.
I was wondering how tough it'd be to drill two holes and insert a steel bar. Then pull that. Or attach the hoist to it.
Also tempted to drift it from the other side but worried i'll damage something.
Oh well, it'll come.
Philia_Bear
Tap it in with a dead blow
Get a pry bar in between the edge of the cv and the trans case
The give it a hard and sudden jerk (don't be slow or gentle)
jb1986
Good golly, what a mammoth thread. Great read, love to see one of these great cars being saved from the clutches of the salvage yards.
I went through a similar process regarding the engine and trans removal a few months ago, albeit different reason. My starter motor ate my ring gear away so err that wasn't good. I did a lot of major works while it was out (timing, pump, billet 16T, etc) as it's a great opportunity to get stuff done with easy access to the motor.
Anyway, I'm new here.. just wondering if yours is AWD or not? I can't see any sign of an angle gear, which was a pain when I took mine out.
Quick tip with the driveshaft, turn it around a quarter turn each time you try prying it, sometimes it's just about finding the right spot where the circlip is sitting. That or find a nice V shaped object you can hammer in between the trans and the CV housing to get it apart.
There really is no way to gently pry them out most of the time, as Philia Bear said.
Will be good to see this thing going again!
pastry
thanks @jb1986 - it's been a ride.. and yeah this thread has grown a tad. Lots of drab stuff but all good info for other owners to stumble on – seems to rank highly on Google now, which is very frustrating when I am trying to find info..!
It is an AWD (all in AUS are I believe). I didn't service the angle gear. I'd have loved to do bearings, rings, add a 16T, eight8 fab downpipe, catback, and i was hoping to locate some lowering springs too – but, $$$! I'd probably rather spend on another project at the end of the day, this bus is going to be full of kids and dogs after all.
I was going to drop the pan to clean the pickup, but figured I'll see if it runs OK first. Access looks ok from beneath so only issue might be sealing it. I've done it on a Saab, but not sure if they are also zero clearance.
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I got the CV out with a skinny chisel and more force than i'd expected to use. But it came out. Thank god! It was probably quite easy in the end, just needed the right technique and appropriate force, + suitable 4-letter words as @drvolvo prescribed.
jb1986
Google redirecting you to your own thread while you're trying to research online? Is that a real thing? lol
I did a minor service of the angle gear while it was out, everything seemed fine with it so I just cleaned it up as it was caked in oil and gunk and refilled it with fresh clean fluid.
Yes keeping it practical is hard sometimes. I only did the turbo because it's done 200k, and while it was all out I had easy access.
Probably wouldn't do a full exhaust (DP) or lowering because it's a daily family bus. But hey if I large sum of money drops in my lap, no promises I won't change my mind ;)
When will this beast fire to life? If you were in Adelaide I would probably be around your place every second night helping out lol
pastry
Yes, it's a real annoying and fruitless thing!
Angle gear in this relatively new engine looked good to me, so happily slapped it together. Granted it had 229k km on it, but as a whole the wreck i bought seemed extremely well cared for, which may have given me an overly-optimistic confidence.. time will tell!
the best thing about pulling an engine on a car you've never worked on before is how much it informs you for later issues. I wouldn't be too worried about removing the angle gear later if needed, though it might be tight. I'd be much less inclined to change the turbo.. that damn bulkhead..
Reckon I'll have it together by end of the weekend. I keep finding new things to clean and then I feel like giving them a lick of paint, too.. but, that's my (again – optimistic!) estimation.
Welcome to the forum BTW. Nice to have another XC90 guy here, we're not well represented!
Please fly up if it's not running within 2 weeks :)
bigal
Philia_Bear;123289 wrotegive it a hard and sudden jerk (don't be slow or gentle)
Lol
pastry
Well, I put the battery terminal on last night. Lots of moaning about coolant, brake fluid, etc etc but nothing disastrous. I did discover I'd not pushed the fuel line back on far enough..
Most importantly, the S60 front seats work just fine.
I've got a few little bits on the way from ipd before I can tidy up all the loose ends, so next job is front strut rebuild.
jb1986
pastry;123452 wroteMost importantly, the S60 front seats work just fine.
Wait wait hold up, are you saying seats are completely interchangeable?
pastry
Looks that way, as far as P2 seats go.
I've not tested all functions (seat heaters etc), but they move. The (lovely) plug is identical, and the bolts all line up.
Not sure which are the "best" seats, presumably there are some great comfort options in the s80 or sporty ones in the S60R.
Which would you choose?
jb1986
pastry;123468 wroteLooks that way, as far as P2 seats go.
I've not tested all functions (seat heaters etc), but they move. The (lovely) plug is identical, and the bolts all line up.
Not sure which are the "best" seats, presumably there are some great comfort options in the s80 or sporty ones in the S60R.
Which would you choose?
Yea it makes sense if they are the same rail but I always assumed the XC90 seats were taller because it looks like it just sits higher, but that could be the rail height that is higher than the sedans.
The S80 seats are a lot softer, sink in to them like a nice soft leather sofa. The XC90 seats are a bit more firm but still very comfortable. I think Volvo make the best vehicle seats on the market, everyone that's been in either of my cars has commented on the seats straight away.