DVS LT Vocus XR5 - 93% Volvo content

AshDVS · 2016-03-06T11:29:20+00:00

We'd been looking for a P1 platform car for a little while and the delayed sale of our V70 meant that the C30 we'd had our eye on didn't work out. So, we de...

AshDVS

sucksqueezebangblow;71817 wroteHow do FWDs go with 500hp?

Quite quickly, I'd imagine.
Extracting that level of power out of the 5cyl engine in the P1 platform isn't uncommon. It also isn't cheap to do reliably either.

XR5 (and P1 C30/S40/V50) wouldnt be as nice as the Focus RS, due to different front end/knuckle arrangement - The Focus RS uses the 'Revo knuckle' front end to combat torque steer when pushing large numbers through the front wheels.

See -

That said, there are more than a few 500+ hp Volvo 850T5 and 850R models out there now too, So an XR5 with similar power levels might just benefit from a few more years of suspension/damper evolution.

I'm sure a locker wouldn't go astray either.

Jamest5r_

Also you really need to shim the block when upping the power on these otherwise the liners will split.

AshDVS

Jamest5r_;71830 wroteAlso you really need to shim the block when upping the power on these otherwise the liners will split.

Cases of it are pretty common. Seemingly more common with the Focus crowd rather than the Volvo crowd. Quite possibly because of greater inclination for more aggressive tuning.
We offer Darton sleeve kits for them too.

Vee_Que

I know a guy with an rs. In the wet it is not driveable. Over 260kws at the tyres. Personally, no thanks, I like to at least feel like I can control a high powered car....

AshDVS

Vee_Que;71835 wroteI know a guy with an rs. In the wet it is not driveable. Over 260kws at the tyres. Personally, no thanks, I like to at least feel like I can control a high powered car....

Thats an exaggeration. Focus RS power output is the same as an S60R. Engine tech specs are damn near identical. The Revo-knuckle front end makes it feel quite sure-footed. Considerably less prone to torque steer than an XR5.
I'm not suggesting you wouldn't have to pay attention, but it's not going to wrap you around a pole or into a ditch any quicker than a high powered RWD car.
I've driven quite a few of the high performance Ford vehicles built after 2008 or so, including a few Focus RS'. I could happily live with one as a DD.

Tyres can be a big factor with anything with a lot of power. If he can't drive it, perhaps he doesnt have a suitable tyre on it, or perhaps he should not have a drivers license.

Jamest5r_

AshDVS;71834 wrote
Jamest5r_;71830 wroteAlso you really need to shim the block when upping the power on these otherwise the liners will split.
Cases of it are pretty common. Seemingly more common with the Focus crowd rather than the Volvo crowd. Quite possibly because of greater inclination for more aggressive tuning.
We offer Darton sleeve kits for them too.

Yeah its the 2.5 blocks they are just a little too thin.

Jamest5r_

Vee_Que;71835 wroteI know a guy with an rs. In the wet it is not driveable. Over 260kws at the tyres. Personally, no thanks, I like to at least feel like I can control a high powered car....

Yeah I'm running 311whp/556nm and it can be a handful in the wet but a diff and decent tyres help

AshDVS

The single biggest limiting factor is tyre. You can only go so wide under the front of a P1 car. If we're talking about getting the power down other than just off the line, a bigger rear swaybar is a good start. The are some decent anti-lift kits out there with offset control arm bush/mounts - there are also some bloody awful ones - the market appears very sensitive to cost, therefore there are some questionable low-end products around.

Once some of the initial tasks are done, ours will get a Mazda 3 MPS rear swaybar when the suspension goes in.

Volvotech

I'm glad I've got you all talking I will explain in detail what it has n hasn't got but I tell you one thing the Quaife Lsd is epic at minimising torque steer & is a must.
Machined closed block
5" custom induction, Plenum, Big Intercooler, 1000cc injectors, Garrett Gt3576, Pumaspeed exhaust manifold, 4" custom Dp, 100 Cell Cat into 3" twin single mufflers, Tuned on E85, Xtreme twin plate organic clutch & single mass flywheel, Quaife lsd, Whiteline Front & rear Swaybars, Strut Brace, Antilift kit, Team Dynamics wheels, Uprated fuel pump & pressure reg, Slotted & Dimpled Rotors with Ferrodo 2500 pads, Braided brake lines, RS oil cooler, HD Cv joints, Bilstein coilovers, Hyper Technics torque mount, headlighs probably more but the grey matter fails me at times.

Volvotech

Having driven both I dont believe that the Revo knuckle makes much of a noticeable difference to torque steer once you've installed your Quaife into your XR5 to be thinking of installing the RS front end but awd would be a major plus to planting big bhp to the tarmac, I know others will say different.

AshDVS

The posts for an AWD conversion of a C30, Focus or anything else on the P1 platform have been moved to -
https://ozvolvo.org/discussion/4270/c30-awd-ls-lv-ford-focus-awd

Let's see if we can flesh out some more of it in that thread. Certainly a good topic for conversation.

AshDVS

I've got some bits and pieces off being painted.
Wheels were sandblasted and should be back from paint early next week.
RH skirt and both skirt ends should be back from paint early next week too.

I'll mount up some tyres when the wheels get back - I have some sitting around. I'll likely grab the best of those and maybe buy two new ones.

We are now reselling Zunsport grilles - Made in the UK. really neat stainless mesh grille replacements.
A Zunsport lower grille replacement arrived the day before yesterday. The finish is fantastic.
Once the front bar has been repaired and painted, I'll fit the grille to it and work out a solution for mounting the number plate.

This weekend, I expect to finally have a bonnet that both closes and reopens (!!!)

AshDVS

I had an hour today, so finally managed to fit the clutch pedal pad (missing when I got the car) and fit the remaining kick panel and give the thing its first interior once-over. The seats still need steam cleaning but it's starting to look tolerable.

Some pics -

Philia_Bear

The rear seat looks stained in horse seamen
(and yes i do know what this looks like)

AshDVS

Philia_Bear;72561 wroteThe rear seat looks stained in horse seamen
(and yes i do know what this looks like)

That may very well be the case. I can't get the marks out of the seats with anything I have, so will see how it comes out after steam cleaning.

This morning, I trekked out to Dandenong to catch up with a guy who had a heap of Focus parts leftover from a wrecked LV XR5. I came home with this -

Heaps of late interior plastics, a LH skirt that is the right colour and good enough that I wont have to paint it and a tailgate.

phonsa

Coming along nicely, good work.

Vee_Que

The rear seats are so plain!

AshDVS

phonsa;72691 wroteComing along nicely, good work.

I'll work my way through replacing the broken/scuffed/manky plastic bits when I have time here and there and use the best of the stuff I have from my car and the LV stuff I picked up on the weekend.
All the LV XR5 plastics are a lighter grey (slightly) and dont quite look as dated, though there isnt much in it.

The tailgate may have to wait as I'll need another pair of hands to fit it - its a bit bulky and awkward to lift and bolt up with one person. As the car is at home, I'll have to bribe someone with pizza, etc to provide the extra set of hands.

Vee_Que;72695 wroteThe rear seats are so plain!

Definitely. Clearly a different intended market to the Volvo offerings on the same platform.
LV cloth seats were available in Grey/Blue, Grey/Red and Grey/Orange depending on body colour.
LS/LT (like mine) cloth seats were available in Grey/Dark Grey.

I don't mind them though. When it comes to interiors, I have quite simple tastes.
Seats have way better support than any of the Volvo seats in the P1 cars, they just look a lot more 'budget'.

AshDVS

So, this is how bad my OCD is.

On the left we have a LS/LT Focus XR5 LR door trim, from a car with cloth interior.
On the right we have a LV Focus XR5 LR door trim, from a car with cloth interior.

On my car, the drivers door trim is a bit grotty and since I do not have another LS/LT RF door trim, I'm swapping over to the LV ones.

Vee_Que

That is way too much effort for a car you only need to modify the chassis on. But that's just me. Not working a white collar job, no matter how careful i be, I found that dirt spreads anyway. And 740/940 door cards fray anyway!

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