Philia_Bear
Manual s60
Or
S40/v50 with lots of maintenance history
Like evidence of trans fluid flush
egads (she/her)
01 - 04 ish V40 is a solid wagon and plenty luxurious
240
That was my thinking @egads but I suspect that will be met with negativity because of age sadly.
@Philia_Bear manual S60 would be great and I even found a nice one near me! But I don't think auto is negotiable. I'll try though.
S40/V50 - what else is there to look out for other than trans fluid flush?
Are any of the engines better than others?
Philia_Bear
240;73132 wroteThat was my thinking
@egads (she/her) but I suspect that will be met with negativity because of age sadly.
@Philia_Bear manual S60 would be great and I even found a nice one near me! But I don't think auto is negotiable. I'll try though.
S40/V50 - what else is there to look out for other than trans fluid flush?
Are any of the engines better than others?
The T5 and 2.4i are even in reliability
Common failures are
Fuel pressure sensor if not already replaced
Air mass meter
Oxygen sensor
Front suspension (all of it Like every volvo ever)
Look for an 07+ for better reliability
The best ones under $15k are the d5 autos which have near zero issues
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Philia_Bear
Stupidly high km and awd are a bad combo
240
Says highway km so I didn't think it was too bad but fair point.
What's wrong with awd?
Philia_Bear
240;73150 wroteSays highway km so I didn't think it was too bad but fair point.
What's wrong with awd?
Angle gear failures
Haldex maintenance and failures
Rear diff maintenance
Reduced fuel economy (significant)
Increased Cv count
Increased cost of suspension parts
Harder to find parts
Spac
So many well priced V50s around lately. Just wish more f$&kers had bought manual ones...
I did like the one where the mechanic advised that the undersize brake rotors needed to be replaced "so they didn't shatter". FFS people.
Ex850R
Best FWD Ovlov?
An AWD one!
240
That is in contrast with what Philip Bear said...
Anyway the point is - if one picks up a V50 with reasonable km and service history can it be a reliable daily driver for a few years?
Philia_Bear
240;73174 wroteThat is in contrast with what Philip Bear said...
Anyway the point is - if one picks up a V50 with reasonable km and service history can it be a reliable daily driver for a few years?
Under 100k km and it will last to 200k no issues
That Said
Stuff still applies as noted above
Id aim to spend 13-15 and look for a d5 s40
They are massively better than a t5 assuming you plan to put hwy km onto it
AshDVS
If looking for a good 'appliance car' 2.4L FWD is very tough to beat. @Philia_Bear has already mentioned what to be wary of, and thats a good summary.
850 onwards saw Volvo models become a bit harder than other things on front end components and front brakes. You can do most service items/replacements yourself with common hand tools, so dont let it worry you too much.
If you're chasing an AWD one specifically, Jeremy has a nice V50 T5 AWD (auto) for sale. Not sure of kms, but I do know where it came from so it'd be a decent car.
lasercowboy
On the advice of @Philia_Bear and others, I got a 2010 S40 2.4i auto as my daily commuter, and I have to admit it's a very easy and nice car to waft about in. The level of kit and comfort is high, it's got enough poke to get you out of trouble when you need it, it's blindingly quiet and refined on the highway, it's fairly good looking, and mostly flies under other people's radars which I really like.
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So is the 2.4i the best motor to go for then? Or is it sort of even between it, the T5 and the D5? From a reliability/cost point of view, I guess.
@AshDVS thanks for tip about Jeremy's V50, where is he? Only cars in NSW can be considered at this point.
When you say that there is more stress on the front end suspension etc - is it basically a given that new suspension wil be worthwhile in any case? And how much money should be factored into this?
Is there any different at all between an S40 and V50 other than the body style?
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/charlestown/cars-vans-utes/v50-volvo-wagon-76-000km-excellent-service-history/1108926661
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/condell-park/cars-vans-utes/2008-volvo-s40-le-sedan-auto-2-4l-534/1101849877
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Volvo-S40-2007/SSE-AD-3577766/?Cr=5
possible contenders?
Ex850R
Its easy andc cheapish to ship cars around. I was havin a laff about my P80s in the wet on boost really , AWD is good in them for wet traction.
sucksqueezebangblow
Got to really test the wet weather traction last week. I've never had an AWD before so flooring it off the mark in the rain is a bit of a novelty.
jaykenneally
Thanks for the recommendation
@AshDVS but my V50 sold as of today finally. Was quite a good example, had 165,000 on it :)
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Further to the discussion of FWD Volvos -
As I mentioned a while back someone I know is looking at possibly getting an S40 or V50. Several nice low km ones have come up but a 2010 diesel model for only $10k caught my attention.
However, although this person does 20k+ km per year most of that is short trips, which I'm led to believe isn't good with a diesel because the DPF gets clogged or something.
What's the advice on this?
Also out of interest, why did you sell your V50, @JeremyK ?
@lasercowboy what did you find were the things to look out for when you bought your S40?
jaykenneally
We service a few diesels at Berry Motor Group and indeed the short driving doesn't do them many favours, especially if they are serviced at Volvo's 15k intervals. We recommend every 7.5k for all the white block cars, especially diesels. They definitely clog up DPF and other filters, mostly because the owners drive them sedately, as in they never go above 2,000 rpm. Sometimes the diesels need a bit of a "burn off" so to speak....
I sold my V50 mainly because it cost twice, almost three times as much as my 1997 V70 did. I drive over 50 kilometres a day, and the V70 would last me two weeks on fuel whereas the V50 would struggle to do one. Lets not even mention the insurance cost between a $4000 car, not financed and a $14000 car, financed.
The V70 costs a lot less to run in terms of maintenance as well, as it is a 2.5 20V naturally aspirated, 1997 black badge model. It will also soon be a manual, so really, whats going to go wrong with it? The V50 however, within the short space I owned it for, the air conditioning died, the alternator died and I had some concerns about the all wheel drive system.
Don't get me wrong, Berry did the right thing with that car and made sure it was all good, and all the faults that occurred could easily happen on my nearly 20 year old V70, so Im not being biased here. It also had a warranty which was a huge temptation for me to keep it over the V70.
The main reason I sold it was just the cost. When all I do is drive it to work and back, the V70 did the same job for a lot less money. I've since gone through the V70 and fitted all the luxuries the V50 had to it, such as heated and electric seats, bigger wheels with better tyres, soon it will get the extra dash speaker and better stereo, and so on. Really, I'm not much of a materialistic person and for what I do, the V70 more than excels. I have the Cross Country Manual as the show off car haha.
I would honestly put my V70 down as one of the best front wheel drive Volvo's. You cannot go wrong with a black badge. Sure, its a brick, but its just such a good car, I really like it. Ive put that car through hell and it just keeps going.
