Al's 145 barn find

bigal · 2015-05-10T11:29:49+00:00

Update - I've found a 1974 145 and purchased. She's a Barn Find! Details to be revealed later! :-)

1971_144GL

My 144 said it has a lsd in the delivery document, but not there now if it ever was, just a 4.56. but perhaps it did exist and someone changed it. I did see one once in person in Canberra.

bigal

Now you have me interested (finger's crossed please be lsd!!). Going out now in my pj's and torch.

bigal

Can't see a tag but the thing is so caked in filth! I shall do a degrease of it this weekend. Do the lsd outer casings look different?

bigal

@1971_144GL good point. Going to check the original sales doco.

bigal

I find it hard to imagine it was ordered with a lsd but no radio! Haha

1971_144GL

I can. Have you met Volvo drivers? The diff centre I saw was larger and a different shape. In a 164 and marked in the casting Volvo.

bigal

Ha good point. I wont loose faith just yet.

No full detail of of the vehicle in the sales receipt other than volvo s/wagon and all of its numbers. Interesting to note the first few volvo dealer services and warranty work refer to it as being a 'Volvo 145 GL'.

bigal

Found something..

"Rear axle, type"

Then in the field next to that this is hand written..

SPICER

Ex850R

Now you HAVE TO GO OUT IN YOUR Pj's with degeaser and the torch and take a picture, I can't sleep till I know the outcome!

bigal

Oh its too late and i'm tired. Gotta get up in 6 hours. Glad you're excited too though!

So spicer seems to be the lsd supplier for volvos of the era.. here's a good read..

http://people.physics.anu.edu.au/~amh110/Diff_LSD/diff_lsd_volvo_dana.htm

Major Ledfoot

bigal;88636 wrote Do the lsd outer casings look different?

Nope. Find the ID tag underneath years of muck with the part number on the diff unit itself (see pic) and check the part number against the list in the 140 Parts Manual, in Grupp 4, Sida 88. Yours being a Grande Luxe (and thus an import) means you could be lucky. Radios btw were dealer-fitted items.

bigal

I have a "Carer's Day" at home today looking after our sick daughter. So.. I snuck out for a few min and started cleaning that ID tag.

The first two fields are clean and read:

RATIO
4.10.1

PART <something> (NR still under grime)
255802

@bgpzfm142 This number is within range on that list for 'Antispinn'. Check out the last line. What do you guys think?

Major Ledfoot

255802-1 appears to be listed as a 4.10:1 regular diff - see Grupp 4, Sida 76, line 0300 of the 140 parts manual.

Although it may have been retrofitted with an LSD. A lot can happen in 40 years.

bigal

If that is a regular diff list then I see that 255803 is under the same list as a 4.30.1 but that is definitely listed as an Antispinn also.

I can't find that 0300 line. I'm looking at this place..

http://www.volvotips.com/index.php/140-164/140-parts-manual/140-new-type-1973-1974-parts-catalog/

bigal

Woah.. 00255802 is listed under antispinn! Found it in that list specifically listed.

bigal

Shall I do the LSD dance of joy??

Major Ledfoot

bigal;88669 wroteShall I do the LSD dance of joy??

I wouldn't. It's under the "Standard rear axle"heading. See?

bigal

I see how that list works now. The list I was reading wasn't as clear as that. Dammit! I have the pov pack. Cheers.

bigal

So guttered I better crush it.

1971_144GL

That's a bit harsh. Swap for a beer instead? Anyway I am led to believe that the gear set is made by Dana, and were heavily used by Jeep in particular. The housing is Volvo made to take purchased in gears. That is why you can buy a crown wheel and pinion and planetary gears for so little, including different ratios, as they are mass produced for other brands. You can also buy Dana 27 and 30 LSD hubs for remarkably like money. In theory they are a direct replcemt for the standard gear hub. Might be an interesting $500 experiment, and I have a couple of spare diffs. Setting up the crown wheel and pinion is tedious, but theoretically it is not that hard an overall job. Google "Dana locker" or antispin, and the correct spline hub seems available in a number of brands and specifications. Could be an entertaining experiment even if it doesn't work.

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