econti
Hey all.
I've been directed here from turbobricks.
I'm after the specific mechanical differences between our 242 GTs and the standard 240s.
As far as I can tell, they have stiffer springs and shocks, bigger sway bars and vented brakes.
Anything else?
Thanks.
Rob
I don't profess to be an expert on these things but i know there are a couple of guys here who will know.
That being said, I think you are pretty close to the money, GT's are 2.3's also.... and they have those strut braces to the firewall.
I had one once, was a good car, shouldn't have sold it.
econti
My brother's '84 240 wagon has the upper bracing to the firewall. Is there something extra down low?
Rob
i think they may have became standard later on, i believe the gt's were first to get them, none of the other early variants have them.
carnut1100
The strut braces were a GT thing but the Aus importers decided that as we have rough roads they would spec them on all 240s from then on.
I believe we also got the heavy duty lower control arms fitted to taxis overseas.
GT spec was also available in some markets on a 4 door as a GLT.
2.3 engine when 2.1 was the biggest in other models. 2.3 later extended across the range.
H camshaft on GT and GLT only.
Slightly lower and stiffer springs with anti roll bar bias set up for reduced understeer.
Alloys standard.
Overdrive gearbox standard.
3.9 diff ratio (some others had this but not with a 2.3 that I am aware of. )
Vented brakes before other versions.
Many of the GT items later filtered down to the rest of the range so they seem less special now, but when they came out they were a big jump over a regular 240.
carnut1100
Lower chassis braces were on 260s.
My GT has had them retrofitted and aftermarket ones are available from DVS.
econti
So there were upper AND lower braces, and only the GT had the lower ones?
Right.
Open centre diff, yeah?
carnut1100
Only 260s had lower braces. My GT has them added.
GT and GLT (overseas market only) had upper brace but Volvo Aus fitted them to all 240s after that.
Open diff yes.
econti
Right. Thanks.
Now to wait for the person to reply to the ad....
Spac
carnut1100;4033 wroteThe strut braces were a GT thing but the Aus importers decided that as we have rough roads they would spec them on all 240s from then on.
I believe we also got the heavy duty lower control arms fitted to taxis overseas.
GT spec was also available in some markets on a 4 door as a GLT.
2.3 engine when 2.1 was the biggest in other models. 2.3 later extended across the range.
H camshaft on GT and GLT only.
Slightly lower and stiffer springs with anti roll bar bias set up for reduced understeer.
Alloys standard.
Overdrive gearbox standard.
3.9 diff ratio (some others had this but not with a 2.3 that I am aware of. )
Vented brakes before other versions.
Many of the GT items later filtered down to the rest of the range so they seem less special now, but when they came out they were a big jump over a regular 240.
This pretty well nails it.
Compared to a "standard spec" manual 1979 244GL, the GT was a clear step ahead - but compared to a 1982 244GL, the GT isn't anywhere near as impressive.
In reality, the main value of a GT nowdays is the 2-door body. This is especially true for tinkerers and modifiers.
PaddlerEd
GT spec is basically a UK GLT, which in later years is about the same as an Aussie GLE (which in the UK is a luxury spec)
This GLT/GLE difference continued right up to the 850, including the 7 and 900's. In the UK the 16v 7/900 was a GLT, whereas over here it was the GLE, and in the UK the 850GLE was a miniture luxo-barge, whereas the GLT was the sporty one.
econti
Would volvo people be upset if I changed the grille (and therefore lights) to remove the driving light holes?
There's a parts car on Gumtree, an '82 wagon, and in my opinion the lights and grille look a lot better than the GT.
Spac
Depends on how good the GT is. Most of the people here won't care at all - some of the older fuddy-duddy types might, but it is a mild, easily reversed modification, so there will not be a lynch mob...
Just realised that I've owned four of them - the best one, I felt bad about modifying but then sold it to a bloke who is doing a turbo swap... The one I should have kept was the first one - a very good shell but just rough enough that I wouldn't have felt bad fiddling with it.
Ironically, the one I kept is a rusted out shitbox...
econti
I have no idea about condition, the photos don't show much and the guy hasn't replied to my text.
It's reversible so I don't have a problem doing it, I'd keep the original front end if/when it comes time to sell, or I want to go back to GT front.
It wouldn't be staying n/a though, at least once I'm off P plates. A mild turbo and LSD would suit the car well, I would think.
The plan would be, if I do manage to get it, is first to fix the head gasket, be that just the gasket or a new engine, and then remove the rear muffler as we have done on my brother's '84 240 wagon.
It turns out that if you split the exhaust before the rearmost muffler, and then turn the tip around, it fits onto the end of the pipe that would normally enter the rear muffler. You end up with a centre exit exhaust that sounds pretty wicked.
Rob
econti
Yeah, that's it.
Has anyone been to look at it? Is it even still for sale?
I'm skeptical about the HG, whether it's just the HG or there's warping or pitting. Still, engines are cheap.
Rob
I don't know that anyone here has looked at it. I'd buy it but, cant be too serious and it has a few good bits. Of course it would be nice if you could get the price down.
check the sunroof area but.
Spac
Ring (at a sensible time), rather than texting. People who text as the first contact are far more likely to be time wasters than people who ring.
If there "suddenly" ended up with water in the oil despite a lack of use, then my money would be on a corroded head.
The GT motor isn't a great one to add a turbo to. High compression ratio, big cam and K-jetronic aren't the best/easiest for a +T. You can fix them, but then you're probably better off just fitting a B23ET/230FT.
econti
I texted today just because texting is more convenient.
I'll call tomorrow though. Don't want to seem desperate, there goes some bargaining.
Yeah, I wasn't planning on +T to the current engine. A +T would probably happen to a 230F since they've got slightly lower compression, yeah?
I haven't seen many FT complete engines by themselves. The few that I do see have a car attached to them.
Corroded head... That would not be fun.
econti
Got a reply back, it was sold a few days ago.
Oh well, onto the next.
