eXciteAU
Thinking about buying a 240 ,but i want to swap the engine for a RB30(holden vl engine),could someone let me know if this is possible and how much it would cost me to get a mechanic to swap it.
Cheers Liam. if you could give me some of the best years to buy.
Rob
Shouldn't be to hard... but why?
Seems like a funny one, particularly if you are going to pay someone to do the whole job.... could get expensive.
eXciteAU
Just wanna get the RB30 in then when im off my ps put a RB25 head on and turbo ect. How much is expensive ? B-)
Philia_Bear
Stick with the stock 240 engine until off of P's
P drivers are banned from driving modified cars and an engine swap counts
After you are off the P's the 2JZ is an easier and better documented swap
eXciteAU
Alright cheers, the stock engine alright?
Vee_Que
If I was to do the job, I would recommend a 2jz as there is more ability in making power and the cost at the end will be the same. Using the rb series is futile vs the power that can be made with the jz series motor. It would be over $1500 for labour to convert any motor plus wiring and other mucking around. Then depending on state minimum $800 for an engineers certification. P platers can't drive modified cars in Victoria, so an engineered 1 or 2jz or rb series motor would be illegal to drive.
Is there any reason you want to go with an rb motor given volvo make a factory turbo 4cyl that will make similar power to rb motors with less cost given the conversion.
egads (she/her)
Fastest feeling stock 240 I have driven was a manual 85.
Philia_Bear
egads;26243 wroteFastest feeling stock 240 I have driven was a manual 85.
+1
Followed by a 93 with a M47 and 4.11 rear's
eXciteAU
Cheers for the help guys ! ;)
eXciteAU
One more thing how much hp can you get out of a NA B23 ? im new to volvos ;)
Vee_Que
NA you won't get too much without crazy work. Probably about 70rwkws with a manual and a k cam fitted.
eXciteAU
Alright, yeah that's shit
Philia_Bear
100KW is possible on stock internals with K cam
A_Volvo_Driver
Why not a Volvo 2.5L turbo? :)
eXciteAU
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Ex850R
Torque is what you want , outright horses is just a wank....
Turbo the redblock or go the Japan motor , its the aftermarket ECU that costs the most to set up and convincing an engineer to pass it ...
Upgrades to drive line or proved to the engineer that it is capable is also a problem but a turbo redblock can be done easier than Japan motor with some serious fun to be had.
carnut1100
While on Ps just get a manual one and drive it.
Perhaps do some suspension and brake upgrades, interior, cosmetic etc...then when off Ps either turbo the redblock or do a swap.
From personal experience, while 140hp doesn't sound like much, you can have a lot of fun with it if you have a manual and a diff ratio that isn't stupid....3.9 or 4.1 = fun, 3.73 is ok, 3.54 is meh, and 3.31 is slooooooow.....
Trust me, while on Ps you really don't want a car that does burnouts too easily or gets to illegal speeds to fast.....you want something that you can hone your driving skills on and gain experience.
Too much grunt now will be too tempting to resist, and even a stock redblock can get you into trouble.....
You have a max speed of 80 for the next year anyway, so I would suggest K cam or H if you can find one, 3.9 or 4.1 diff with LSD (truetrac for Jeep with Dana 30...$300-ish from Summit in the USA...) and manual gearbox, throw some decent brake pads on it (I like EBC Greenstuff or Redstuff but others don't...everybody has a preference), some decent tyres (grab some 15" wheels and throw some Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE002 on there...great bang for buck and awesome in the wet...), have a chat to Ash on here who runs DVS and get a set of his special spec Kings lowering springs (transforms the car.....don't cut the stock ones!) and take his advice regarding which bushes to swap for poly and which to leave rubber....throw in a set of his lower chassis braces and bung in a decent set of shocks, Bilstein are nice but not the only ones.
Have fun with that for a year then decide whether to boost the redblock or go for a Japanese motor.
A boosted redblock can be awesome fun.....400hp at 30psi leaves a big thrill behind wherever it goes....
eXciteAU
@Carnut1100 thanks alot , bloody hard to find a manual !
Ex850R
Plenty of spares around to do a swap of gearbox bit that's hard work straight up!
All said above is so true , a good handling and stopping manual is just plain cheap fun!
Its the best way to learn var control too , go and do some track days of some sort as well.
carnut1100
If you know you will want grunt later, buy a tidy auto and do the Dellow conversion to Supra gearbox.
Nice five speed straight up, and when you boost the redblock later your M46 won't explode into a million fragments.....or if you go 2jz you've already got the correct gearbox mounted ready to rumble.
