120L
Hi
I've been told the 6 cylinder 164 engine has inherent problems. The gentlemen advised me to stay well clear of the 164 because unlike the 4 cylinder engines the 6 cylinder had flaws and was unreliable?
Can anyone enlight me?
Regards
Alan
Rob
Piffle
Rob
Perhaps he is confused and is referring to the V6 fitted to the 260/760.
120L
I'd be happy to hear they are great reliable engines.
It would make me very happy.
Regards
Alan
Chris
Bear in mind that these are old, old vehicles now and reliability is about condition and maintenance
120L
I fully realise that but if you get a good engine and its reliable by nature with good maintenance it can run quite well. An unreliable engine you can never trust.
Regards
Alan
Rob
They have been know to wear out the odd camshaft and timing gear... nothing unexpected from an engine the best part of 50 years old.
I believe they are every bit as reliable as their 4cyl counterparts.
120L
That's great because I'd really like a 164 TE or at least injected with A/C.
Regards
Alan
Spac
What Rob said. B30 is as tough as nails.
Philia_Bear
I'd own a b30 over a b20 any day of the week
Philia_Bear
B6304 blows both out of water for stupid reliability though
Major Ledfoot
What Rob said. What Spac said.
What I say? 164 engines (B30A and B30E) require the following to last forever:
* Oil, and scheduled oil and filter changes.
* Clean high octane fuel.
* Periodic valve train adjustment.
* Coolant flushes every two years.
* Not being over-revved ... well, not being over revved too often.
egads
Only thing I have to add is replacing fibre timing gears with steel solves that problem while only adding a bit more noise.
120L
Thank you to all of you.
What I'm looking at then, is basically a very solid car.
All I need is a good one and maintenance.
Regards
Alan
Angus242164
No inherent design problems with the B30, and wear levels are typically lower than most other engine designs of similar age.
The D-Jetronic EFI on the '72-'74 164E can be a bit of a problem sometimes, particularly the MAP sensor, which has internal diaphragms that tend to split and cause running problems.
ab1
my first one that had sat for about 10 years apparently and I drove that for a year and a half the only issue I had with it was the alternator going twice. that however was due to the massive sub in the boot :P
the only grief d jet has given me is hot starts however there are solutions to this that I have yet to attend to.
carnut1100
D-Jet can be fun if it's been neglected and some parts are hard to get, although the basic architecture is easy to swap for megasquirt and some models ran carbs.
Maintained D-Jet is great.
They don't like being revved stupid high. Not many online sixes do...
Fibre timing gears aren't cool on any motor with some age on it. Steel gears fix this.
Old pushrod motors need valve gear adjustments from time to time. Not unique to B30
Even an old iron head motor won't tolerate no coolant forever without rusting out, but they'll go a long time.
They are at least as bulletproof as an old Holden Red motor or an early Falcon six.
jrc
Yep. Well you know. My ‘70 auto stripped 8 teeth off the timing gear going into Marulan one Sunday evening in may ‘78. Dead stop. Klonk!! Picked it up the following Thursday $165 to repair and flew like a bird on the way home.
After 5 more months I unloaded it at 98.000 miles for $1800. End if y4 uni etc etc. it was HEAVY on fuel 20 mpg absolute highway best 16 around town.
The 74 142 4M with 80,000 km I bought for 4200 late January was literally chalk and cheese nice to drive cornered well 29 - 30 mpg routinely need I say more
In my view though the absolute best simplicity / drive ability combination of Volvo’s ever is the 1981 /82 244 DL carburettor b21a manual variant
Good luck
bigal
No no no you have it all wrong.. there's nothing better than a b20 with a borg warner 35.
egads
You spelled m40 wrong :-P