C30 Thank you, sorry, and Michelin Pilot Sport 4 - WOW!!!

I can’t believe it’s been a whole year since I made my first post on this forum. I asked for advice regarding brakes, and the crew here were very welcoming and helpful. Thank you all, and I am sorry that I did a hit and run.

Why did I not stick around? To be honest, I kinda felt like a school kid who had not done their homework. I’ve only just gotten around to replacing the front pads and rotors on my C30 T5R. I went with the recommendation from @Philia_Bear, that being the DBA T2 and Bendix Euro+ pads.

At first I couldn’t tell much difference, seeing as I hadn’t driven the car in over a year and the old brake pads were down to the backing plates. But two of my Pirelli P7 tyres were damaged, so I put two Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres on the front, and moved the remaining Pirellis to the back.

Oh my what a difference! The new Michelins are quieter, the ride is more supple, and there is much more grip (wet or dry). The ABS can now take a well earned holiday, and the traction control rarely engages (used to drive me nuts!). I have more feel through the steering wheel, brake pedal, and even the accelerator pedal. Between the new tyres and the new brakes, this car now stops much more quickly, and yet does so more smoothly than ever before. I’m not very good at maths, but I think I’m about 1000% happier with these brakes (Thanks again @Philia_Bear! ), and approximately 3780% happier with these tyres. I am astonished that such performance is available at $215 per tyre (205/50 R17).

I have always said that if the tyres are bad, the steering, suspension, brakes, and power unit will all underperform. But never have my words been so definitively demonstrated. I’ve always loved the C30 conceptually, but I’ve struggled to bond with it over the six years I've owned it. Even in the dry it was a bit of a handful. Now I think I’m finally falling in love with it and I’m feeling much more motivated to get under it and give it a good seeing to.

Now I’ve finally done my homework from a year ago (i.e., replacing the brakes), I intend to check in here regularly. My interests lean toward the technical aspects of vehicle design, and my knowledge has largely been forged on the anvil of old RWD Peugeots. Nevertheless my interest is not exclusive to particular models as I enjoy learning the general principles behind the design, so I shall henceforth endeavour to contribute where and when I can.

I look forward to seeing you all here frequently, and thank you in advance for putting up with me!

Respectfully, JJ.

P.S. Anyone else tried the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 and/or the 4S? (4S isn't available in my size). I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts on them. And although they didn't work for me, I'd be interested in people's thoughts on the Pirelli P7 also - maybe there are applications where they positively shine?



  • Ex850RSnoopy (@Ex850R) Somewhere Over the Rainbow. Melbourne.

    Good to hear! And welcome back , no need to run!

    P7s are not what they used to be at all......

    PS3s for me were amazing but on a lesser budget RE003s are a ball of fun too.

    Many here have played with the set up f that car so get onto it.

  • TzantushkaTrent (@Tzantushka) E. suburbs - Melbourne

    Good to see you back here & feedback is always welcome.

    Michelin Pilot Sport 4 is a very good tyre - solid choice.

    The 4s is an even better beast (at a higher price).

  • But running is my primary coping mechanism for my social awkwardness, lol!

    But seriously, Thanks :)

    I guess the P7 is a pretty old design now. I considered the PS3s, they sound like a good tyre too. Those Re003s do look fun! Comparable price to the PS4 for my size too. Although I do wonder how well they would last. In my experience a decent Michelin tends to outperform comparable tyres towards the end of their life...

    At this stage I'm not looking to modify it too much. First I just want to get it all nice and working as it should. But goalposts have a tendency to move! I'm sure I'll lose many hours searching through old threads here.

  • Thanks!

    Yeah I would have liked to get the 4s, but it isn't available in my size. I am particularly intrigued by the different composition between the inner and outer sides of the tread on the 4s. Now I've read about it, it makes perfect sense and I wonder why I've never thought of it before.

    Now for the first time I really have some confidence in the car, so I'm starting to push it harder. I may well reach a point where I buy a set of the larger wheels to access more tyre options. But for now I'm happy with the 17 inch rims as they are easier to clean!

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